God is evil if He has miracles and does not use them.

Hello GIA, The only problem I see in this line of argument, is the assumption that you know what is best. How do you know that for the survival of all the human race some children don't have to starve. Could earth support a population where no one has ever died off from starvation or disease? We are already close to a tipping point of resources versus demand. How much worse would we be right now if we had even more of a population? There is plenty of things that given limitless resources that I am sure plenty of people would change. However that does not mean that humanity has the insight and for-knowledge to acuratly determine what is best for humanity as a whole.

Not my thoughts. I am not the one advocating a personal God. It is entirely possible that mass extinctions happened exactly the way they are supposed to. I don't know. What is the best way to kill off populations of people? Personaly if I have to go I would like it to be in a meteor collision. I think it would be cool to watch a mountain fall out of the sky, plus it is quick, so long as you are on the side that gets smacked. Unfortunatly death is like parents, you don't get to choose, well unless you're really sad about your girlfriend that dumped you right before prom. You could make the case that HIV, is a way to control the human population. Who knows, maybe AIDS is gods way to limit us to a level that will be able to sustain our resources'. Oh by the way, starvation is also a means to limit reproduction levels. It has been occuring on the earth for many, many years. The point is, if there is a god/s/whatever and there is a "plan" to all this. It is being handled by someone much smarter than any of us. Who works in ways and through time that the human mind can not begin to fathom. We are just now getting a look at what has been told in stories and myth throughout history. Our universe, as it really is, and even now we are finding that there is even more to it that can not even be detected in any way but gravity and expansion. IMO it is a little pretentious to just throw all that back in gods face, just because you do not like the stories a few religions have told about the way they think the universe works. So I say, no it is not evil for god to preform a miracle here and there and not give every person everything they ask for. All you would end up with, would be a bunch of spoiled people who have become completly dependant on god for the littlest of things. I wish that life was paradise, but lets face it. Life is turmoil, it is the way things change and change is not always a bad thing. Just a side thought. If prayer was welfare, then would god be a republican? Edited by rueh, : I love DB codesEdited by rueh, : No reason given.

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'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX

Oh I agree. However it seems that God would rather have humans deal with their own problems. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will feed his family. It seems abundantly clear that, miracles are not God's way of providing for humanity. Instead would rather have us find the solutions. Reminds me more of a parent, who tells the child the stove is hot, but will let them touch it, inorder for them to find out for themselves. That is not evil though. I think the greater evil, is bringing a child into the world that you know is going to starve. Don't shirk humanities responsiblity in the complicity of the matter.

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'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat'
The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ
The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX