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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
As Pascal said, it would help a great deal if the people who are always attacking and criticizing Christianity learned something about it first. You SEEM to be complaining about the God you think we are talking about. What if that God actually is the one that exists? And you have it all wrong?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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If sin is the cause of evil in this world (the Fall), and therefore human beings are the cause of it, why do you all go on pointing the finger at God? Even if you can claim He's *ultimately* responsible you have no case against Him if the way the universe is run means that evil originates from the Creation itself and not from God, that sin is a reaction TO God and the resultant evil therefore inevitable because God can't change His nature. There is no sin or evil IN Him, it originates from the Creation in conflict with Him.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
God determined how the Universe is run. It is determined by His Moral Law, which is of His own nature. You are asking God to change His nature.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I have a case against God as long as God has the power to prevent evil but chooses not to. I wouldn't risk it if I were you. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I can only refer you back to Pascal's statement. How on earth can anyone say the things you say? It takes the breath away.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
People who believe pray. God will protect people if you pray for it. Unless you hate Him of course and are just praying to see what happens, which is hypocrisy and He won't answer that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh they do hate God.
I believe He's protecting people a lot all the time, you just have NO idea and are inclined to think the worst. But as I said, He does answer the prayer of believers. Prayers of mine He's answered only recently were wonderful and surprising. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
We inherit sin. If enough people believe and pray things would change. Why Paris Hilton? Don't assume that rich people are going to get off in the end. But you'd know all this if you spent time finding out what God thinks.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
"The God who doesn't believe in equal rights for homosexuals." Do you have any idea what sin is, and what God has said about sin in the Bible? You are not talking about "equal rights," this is about special rights for a violation of God's law that can only make problems for people who respect and obey God's law. This is insanity almost by definition. You can invent your own God but the one you invent isn't going to hear your prayers or follow your wishes anyway.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Inheritability is a law built into the fabric of the universe. You people are fighting natural law. Tilting at windmills. We try to help the starving people in many ways you know, and Christians do the most of it, sending food and technical knowledge to improve their lives.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He also knew the other sins all of us would commit, but are you asking for "equal rights" for pedophiles? I'm sure they have no more power over their inclinations than homosexuals do, or fornicators or even serial murderers.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He does NOT "make them gay." ALL sin is the result of the Fall, the opposition of the created to the Creator.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Unfortunately your idea of "basic human decency" is nothing but sin in itself, as scripture says: "All our righteousness is as filthy rags." Our RIGHTEOUSNESS is sin too. God made the universe, we have to do it His way.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Even if his moral standard means the suffering of the many? The suffering is caused by sin, by OUR corrupt morals, not His; as I keep saying over and over and over, it's caused by OPPOSITION to God. That brings suffering down on our heads. And the reason it occurs is that God is too pure for us, we can never be righteous enough to please Him. This is why He gave us salvation and ways to communicate with Him, out of mercy to us in our sinful and blind condition. But actively opposing Him is NOT a good idea. This IS His universe and you DO live in it and it IS governed by HIS Law that is too righteous and holy for us, and if you continue to oppose Him you only ruin yourself. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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