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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Since I’ve already shown that he did, you are wrong. Still stuck in your dead end trying to argue a point already refuted/
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Of course as you know, I’ve shown more than you have managed. I showed it in Message 3463 and had to remind you in Message 3470,
Message 3483 and Message 3506 - and that’s just the times I linked back to the original message. quote: And it doesn’t matter because you’re missing all the rest. And you know you’re missing all the rest because you don’t dare discuss it. After all you say you’ve done your homework so if there was any case there, you’d know it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: And, as I have already answered, Antiochus did. Message 3506 Why must you continually repeat arguments already answered?
quote: You have said that. That doesn’t make it true. Daniel 8 and 11 clearly put the end times in the Hellenistic era, and the Greek Diadochi kingdoms are the main subject.
quote: Then what are the other three - that survive after the fourth beast is destroyed? (Daniel 7:12)
quote: What makes you think that the Roman Empire had 10 kings? The number of Emperors was much more than that.
quote: The Vandals, Ostrogoths and the Heruli are not “kings of the Roman Empire”. If Justinian destroyed them then Justinian ought to be the “little horn” - as you have already listed him as one of the ten (and I’m far from convinced that the RCC would get Justinian to destroy an RCC kingdom). Besides that, so far as I can tell the Heruli vanished after becoming divided, fighting a civil war and merging into other peoples. So that doesn’t exactly look good for you. I’m not going to bother with Revelation since it is clearly talking about different things from Daniel.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote:I didn’t say it was from scripture. I stated that you said it. And you did Message 3488. I don’t know why you are going on about Mussolini and Hitler - they weren’t Holy Roman Emperors. The Holy Roman Empire was dissolved before they were born.
quote: The final head of the HRE would be Francis II up to his abdication in 1806. I don’t know why you are using the future tense about somebody who died the best part of 200 years ago.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Because as tell the truth?
quote: The Holy Roman Empire is gone. Dissolved at the start of the §9th Century. That is a fact. The Anglo-Israelite nonsense you preach is just that - nonsense.
quote: None of which is in the least relevant. If you had any “discernment” you would know that. Italy in 1939 was no more the Holy Roman Empire than it was the Kingdom of the Visigoths.
quote: The Bible doesn’t mention it.
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I have thus far mentioned two clues that assist us inidentifying the little horn in Daniel 7. ]/quote] And I’ve show that you are wrong.
quote: Well that shows why you are so insistent that Satan is a great deceiver. But did you really think that you could get away with such an obvious lie ?
quote: You think that you are debating? When your best argument is to try to pretend that I haven’t supported my points. Grow up and stop acting like a silly baby.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: I am sure that it is not talking about the same things as Daniel and that is why Revelation does not belong in a discussion about Daniel. And all this is just a pretence so you can hide from the truth.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Maybe you better pray to your God to get some better lies.
Message 3463Message 3487 Message 3506
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Where are you getting those numbers from? The Holy Roman Empire began with the coronation of Charlemagne in 800 AD
quote: Which aren’t anything to do with the Holy Roman Empire. So just how many kingdoms is this “Beast” of yours?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Not really. All Revelation says is that it’s a numerological value for one man’s name. And there are manuscripts that say it’s 616, too.
quote: Even if that is the correct transliteration it doesn’t get you any further in interpreting Daniel, because Rome is not a major player in those prophecies. And I note that you feel free to use Hebrew or Greek to help get the result you want. But of course if it’s all about the Roman Empire it can’t be about the barely-connected Holy Roman Empire (famously “neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire”).
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: The part of my post you chose to quote simply asked a question. Which you haven’t answered. Dishonest evasion accompanied by insult is hardly productive discussion. Now the fourth Beast of Daniel 7 is A Kingdom. Not a collection of kingdoms that aren’t even closely related, so I guess you can’t be talking about that beast.
quote: No, you aren’t. We can be sure of that. And don’t worry. You don’t understand Revelation any more than I do. Probably less.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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quote: And if I do what will I find out? That I was correct to say that Revelation only tells us that it is the numerological value of a man’s name?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Now, now candle2 isn’t a follower of Herbert W. Armstrong - he’s a follower of the man that Herbert W Armstrong got - or stole - the idea from.
Herbert W. Armstrong - A Plagiarist? It’s all crap. No matter who gets the (dis)credit.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
So rather than discuss the subject - or even explain your assertions you go off rambling about Nazis, who have nothing to do with the subject. And your own freedom-hating anti-American nonsense isn’t on-topic either.
I get that you spout ridiculous nonsense. It isn’t a reason to believe any of it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: You really haven’t, but Revelation is not the topic here.
quote: Open your eyes. See how you run away from explaining how your interpretations work, while pretending my explanations were never posted. Is that how someone who has proof acts?
quote: Open your eyes and see how you contradict yourself. Are they the Roman Empire or the Germanic body (wrongly) called The Holy Roman Empire?
quote: Daniel makes no mention of the number of toes. You simply assume that it is important, for no reason. As one last point, there are still Nazis - but not rich, powerful Nazis. There were Nazis marching at Charlottesville, in support of racism. There were Nazis among the January 6th insurrectionists. That’s not something to forget.
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