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candle2
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Message 3031 of 3694 (913254)
10-19-2023 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 3019 by Phat
10-12-2023 10:56 PM


Re: candle2, Answer These Simple Questions
Phat, the Bible is more than one Book; it is a collection of
66 Books. It is the finished product of numerous authors,
all led by the Holy Spirit of God.
It is the most important Book in the history of the world. It
is not a science book, but it contains many claims that
science has never been able to disprove.
I have gathered information from many books during my
lifetime. However, none of these other books were written
with the same goal and purpose as the Holy Bible.
Jesus loves atheists; He loves sinners; and, He loves
those who ridicule Him.
Jesus loves all of us. To love is at the very core of His
devine nature.
The issue is not if Jesus loves us, but rather or not if we
love Him.
I have always kept firm in that God wants all of us to
come into the knowledge of the truth. And that in His own
time God will open the doors of salvation to everyone.
I have even answered one, if not the biggest deterent to
truly being able to love God. And, that is: why does God
allow so much suffering in this world?
Since you do not accept much of the Bible, why does your
church state that He allows so much suffering.
Why are there so many people that have never heard of
their only possible Savior?
What will be the end relationship between God and the
saved?
You are not my enemy, Phat. I do not come to this site in
order to win a debate.
And, you might think that I am at times arrogant. But, I
assure you that this is not the case. Arrogance is not a
virtue; it is a vice.
I simply speak boldly. I do not allow myself to be bullied
simply because academia believes a certain way. If there
were some merit, some evidence of evolution, I would not
blindly dismiss it.
And, yes! God commands us to love one another.
But love does not consist of teaching others that is is
acceptable to be an atheist. Love does not consist of
telling others that God approves of those who violate
His laws; statutes; and, Commandments.
2Corinthians 11:14-15 makes it clear that Satan and his
ministers can appear to be righteous, and that their words
can appears as righteous words.
Solomon states in Proverbs 14:2 "There is a way that
seems right to a man, but the end thereof are the ways
of death."
The Holy Bible is God's instruction Booklet to us. When a
ministers teaches something that contradicts this
instruction Book, he is to be rejected.
In Luke 14:27-29 Jesus commands those who seek to be
His disciple to "count the cost." It is not an easy road to
follow.
In Luke 7: 46 Jesus declared "And why call ye me, Lord,
Lord, an do not the things which I say?"
Jesus states in Matthew 7: 21- 27 that not all who call on
Him shall enter into His Kingdom. This is reserved for
those who do the will of the Father.
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my Commandments."
Some verses are so crystal clear that it takes a deliberate
act to try and discredit them.
1John 2:3-4 "And hereby we do know that we know Him, if
we keep His Commandments."
4. "He that says, I know Him, and keep not His
Commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

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Phat
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Message 3032 of 3694 (913269)
10-20-2023 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3031 by candle2
10-19-2023 12:14 PM


Re: candle2, Answer These Simple Questions
Are we called to give everything up? Whom do we give it to?

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Phat
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Message 3033 of 3694 (913270)
10-20-2023 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 3029 by DrJones*
10-18-2023 8:24 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
you should be cheering them on then, after all who are you to defy god's will?
Nobody wants to be poor and uncomfortable.

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Theodoric
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Message 3034 of 3694 (913272)
10-20-2023 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 3033 by Phat
10-20-2023 2:24 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
According to your holy book that Jesus dude did.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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DrJones*
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Message 3035 of 3694 (913273)
10-20-2023 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 3033 by Phat
10-20-2023 2:24 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
Nobody wants to be poor and uncomfortable.
as i recall from your conversations with ringo, it doesn't matter what you want, it's what your guy commands.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Phat
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Message 3036 of 3694 (913276)
10-21-2023 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 3035 by DrJones*
10-20-2023 8:25 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
And as I recall, ringo used to tell me that he didn't have to do it because he was not a believer!
What about you, Dr.Jones?
My "guy" always gets His way eventually, but He does engage in mental and spiritual communion with me. He never controls me like I'm some sort of zombie.

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DrJones*
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Message 3037 of 3694 (913278)
10-21-2023 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3036 by Phat
10-21-2023 11:29 AM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
And as I recall, ringo used to tell me that he didn't have to do it because he was not a believer!
​
What about you, Dr.Jones?
of course he didn't and I don't have to do it. How often do you follow the commands of the tooth fairy?

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Phat
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Message 3038 of 3694 (913280)
10-21-2023 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 3037 by DrJones*
10-21-2023 12:22 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
All I can say is that if you dont feel the need to give it all up, are you interested in acquiring more?
World War III, if it develops, will be a war of ideologies. Haves vs Have Nots. Western allies vs BRICS (Indirectly)
Young vs Old.
It will be hard to avoid. Any ideas on how to do it?
As for the tooth fairy, she owes me. I never follow her commands...I simply ask where my 50 cent piece is. I've lost a few teeth since my youth and she stopped paying me.

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Message 3039 of 3694 (913284)
10-21-2023 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 3035 by DrJones*
10-20-2023 8:25 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
DrJones* writes:
t doesn't matter what you want, it's what your guy commands.
It isn't hard to understand, it is the following it that's tricky.
Matthew 7 vs 12
quote:
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.

Micah 6:8


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candle2
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Message 3040 of 3694 (913299)
10-22-2023 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 3030 by dwise1
10-18-2023 9:15 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
Dwise, concerning message 3030 and your use of name
calling, much like kids do, it does not enhance your replies.
Are you aware that when skeletal remains are discovered
the sex of the individual can be ascertained?
In most instances the race, and age can also be determined.
There are many anatomical/skeletal differences between
males and female. I am not not certain that a Liberal
would know this, but still there are differences.
Males have stronger foreheads. They are higher, broader,
and more protruding. Men have heavier browridges, which
give them deeper set eyes.
The generally smaller pupils in men give them a harder,
more aggressive stare.
Men have chins that are generally more squared. Their
Jawbones are more angular than those of females.
Female jawlines are more rounded and softer.
Males have broader and stronger noses.
Men have larger feet than do females. Some TV actresses
have feet that would make Bigfoot jealous.
Men have larger, more robust hands. Generally. The index
finger is shorter than the ring finger on Men. It is the
opposite for females.
In males the shoulders are wider than the hips. In females
the hips are slightly wider than the shoulders. Notice the
difference in the way that males and females carry and
move their arms, as well as how they hang from their
shoulders.
Many Hollywood starlets have shoulders that are much
wider than their hips. Many of these stars have hips
that were not designed for childbearing.
Females, because of their wider hips have higher Q
angles to their legs. Q angel is the degree of angle
between hips and knees.
The Q angel resorts in a different walk for males and
females. Males have greater hip ROM, whereas females
have more ankle ROM-Range of motion.
Men have greater bone mass; lower % of body fat; and,
more lean mass.
Look at the bodies of some female stars, such as Cher
and Madonna. They have male bodies. 70 and 80 year
old females are going to have cellulite.
I lack the time to list more differences. But there are more.
There are also many so-called male actors, politicians, etc,
who were born female.
They all worship Baphomet (Satan). To get something
from Satan requires giving to him.
God states that He made us male and (plus, also, in addition)
female. Satan says that God is wrong. He says that we can
be both-androgynous.
Some microscopic surgeries have been performed since
the 1930's.
Males who want to have a more hourglass shape can have
the 11th and 12th ribs removed. Also, they wear tight
corsets.
Males can reduce the protrusions of their brow ridges by
having their brow bones shaved. Males can also have
their adam apple shaved.
Many, such as the Kardashians, can have gratifying fat
transferred to parts of their bodies, such as the buttocks,
hips, breasts, etc...
This can give the appearance of having larger hips. But, if
one notices, the hips of these individuals generally begin
much lower on the body than female hips. Usually around
the Adonis Belt.
Notice how many of these stars and models pose with
their body bent to one side in order to present false curvature.
They also pose standing with their feet crossed in order
to present higher Q angles.
I have learned to spot the differences. When this was
pointed out to me years ago I did not just dismiss it.
Many people, such as yourself, just blindly accept what
they are told.
As I said, I have more to say concerning this, but I want
to reply to another of your post as soon ad I can.

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Message 3041 of 3694 (913300)
10-22-2023 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 3040 by candle2
10-22-2023 12:42 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
Jesus, it's a damn sight easier than that, girls wear pink and boys wear blue.
(Can't be completely relied upon though, here in Brighton - the gay capital of the UK - it can get more confused but as a general rule it's a banker.)
btw, nearly forgot, why did your god make homosexuals (and paedophiles but I'm not making a connection)? You never got round to answering me dd you?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 3042 of 3694 (913301)
10-22-2023 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 3040 by candle2
10-22-2023 12:42 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
What disease causes you to focus so hard on other people's genitals? Are you a demented sexual predator or are you being an evil religious priest?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 3043 of 3694 (913302)
10-22-2023 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3042 by AZPaul3
10-22-2023 1:39 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
Insanity!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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candle2
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Message 3044 of 3694 (913303)
10-22-2023 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 3042 by AZPaul3
10-22-2023 1:39 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
AZ, my focus is on deception. I never mentioned genitals.
Get your mind out of the gutter.
Don't make an attempt to be funny. Trying to be funny does
not negate what I wrote.

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candle2
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Message 3045 of 3694 (913304)
10-22-2023 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3041 by Tangle
10-22-2023 12:51 PM


Re: Light A Candle In The Church Of God
Tangle, I have answered you many times. If it isn't the
answer that you want, this is not my problem.
Why don't you ever ask any big boy questions? You know,
mature ones.

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