Choosing a faith

Phat, in 1Timothy 5:8 Paul states "But if any provide not
for his own, and specially for those of his own house
(eikeios), he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an
infidel."Now notice Ephesians 2:19."Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the
household (eikeios) of God.The exact same word (eikeios) used for a human family is
used for God and His family.Eikeios refers to relative, family, of his own house.In Matthew 12:47-50 while Jesus was speaking to a group,
one said unto Him that His mother and brother were
standing outside.Jesus stretched forth His hands towards His disciples and
said, "Behold my mother and my brethren!For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven,
the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."2Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he
is a new creature, old things have passed away; behold,
all things have become new."1John 3:2 "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it
does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that
when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall
see Him as He is.What does Christ look like in His Spirit body?Revelations1: 13-16 gives a vivid description of Him.Angels are also spirit beings, but the do not look like Him.We, as members of the family of God, will look like Him.Hebrews 2:10 "For ir became Him, for whom are all things,
and by whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in
bringing many sons unto glory..."Again it states that there will be many sons of God, and
that these sons will be brought unto glory.I am running out of time on this. But the Bible states that
we will be far greater than angels, and that we will rule
over them.

GDR, you need to read all of Numbers 15 before forming
an opinion.God understands the difference between a sin that is
committed in ignorance and one committed with malice
and forethought (verses 23-31 explains the difference).A sin committed in ignorance of God's laws was not a
sin for stoning.Even today we have different punishments for manslaughter
vs premeditated murder.The man who was stoned deliberately disobeyed God's
Sabbath Commandment. He meant to do so.He was challenging God's authority in front of all the
Israelites.If God had allowed him to deliberately rebel against Him,
what would have prevented all of them from rebelling?Concerning the woman taken in adultery, only the Roman
authority had the power to sentence one to death.The Pharisees brought the woman caught in the act of
adultery to Jesus in order to trap Him.They said that the law of Moses states that such a person
be stoned.What are we to do, they asked Him.If Christ had answered let her go, they would have accused
him of violating the law of Moses.If He had answered that they were to stone her, the
Pharisees would have reported Him to Pilate, because
In Palenstine only the Roman authority could sentence
a person to death.Jesus, during this time, had been writing in the dirt with His
finger. We do not know what He wrote, but it is possible
that He listed some of the sins each of her accusers had
committed.He could have made a list of sins that they believed no
one else was aware of.He said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone
at her."One by one they left.

The problem C2 is that you have a very different belief of how we should understand the Bible. John Chap 1 tells us that the Word became flesh. He didn't say that the Word became a book, or more accurately a collection of books.Yes, the Biblical authors were inspired to record their stories, understandings and
histories. You want to read it as if it was essentially dictated by God. Doing that essentially makes a false idol out of the Bible. As humans we don't like grey areas and we want things to be black and white. A massive problem in doing that is that we can find a verse in the Bible to find support for pretty much anything we want.When we read the Bible as if Yahweh is commanding genocide then it seems reasonable that we in the west should get busy and nuke other nations that have practices that we disagree with.I suggest that we should understand the Bible, as a series of books written over time by humans with their own personalities and agendas to form a narrative of the progressive understanding of the nature of God. The climax of the narrative of course is found in the man Jesus. They were inspired to write their stories in the same way that Beethoven was inspired to write his music. When we read the Bible that way, it allows God to speak to our hearts through what these ancients have written.You prioritize an inerrant reading of the Scriptures over the life and teachings of Jesus. It's Biblianity as opposed to Christianity.

"Christian scientists"? What does faith healing have to do with this? Why would you think it should?My father's aunt Vivian was a Christian Scientist. He described her as a very beautiful woman, but she was in an accident where she was thrown from the car. Now, it was a Model T at slow speed, so she only suffered a face-plant on the road surface so her only injuries was road gravel embedded in her face. Easy to treat, but being a Christian Scientist she refused any medical treatment, her injuries got very infected, and she spent the rest of her life disfigured with her beauty marred by pock marks. All because of her Christian Science religious beliefs.Another example would be children dying from their parents withholding simple life-saving treatment (eg, treating bacterial infections like meningitis with antibiotics) because of their faith-healing beliefs ("allowing medical treatment would signal our lack of faith"). A few decades ago the news reported on parents that were convicted for that and at the sentencing the parents, despite being devastated by their child's death (they may be religious fanatics, but they're still human), stated that if they have another child and the same situation arose again then they would act the exactly the same.Such Christians are willing to sacrifice innocent lives for their faith. In contrast, my Rabbinic Literature professor, Rabbi Kalir, told us that in Judaism it is very important to obey God's Law, but if obeying God's Law would result in the loss of a life (even of a non-human life, eg livestock), then you save that life. To me, that demonstrates the superiority of Judaic morality vis-à-vis Christian "morality".And there's Tom Lehrer's introduction (c. 1964 to his "Send the Marines" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFvxqQTh3m4 ), his ode to America's ultimate tool of diplomacy (my emphasis added):

Teacher Lehrer:

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"What with President Johnson practicing escalatio on the Vietnamese and then the Dominican crisis on top of that it has been a nervous year and people have begun to feel like a Christian scientist with appendicitis. Fortunately in times of crisis just like this America always has this number one instrument of diplomacy to fall back on."

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So what the fuck is Christian Science supposed to have to do with evolution? I know of no issues that that church has with evolution. Yes, I know that your church has issues with evolution, but nobody knows what those issues are, not even you.Jessica H. Christ! What is wrong with you that you feel that you must constantly deflect and divert? Or do you think that you just made up that "new" euphemism for "lying deceiving piece-of-shit creationists"? Like Trump "just made up" "priming the pump"? It's obvious that you just stole it from yet another lying creationist source and you started using it without any thought (like how Kent Hovind fell for the "Onyate Man" April Fool's Day prank -- named after Juan de Oñate y Salazar, infamous in New Mexico history).Piece of advice: when you pull yet another bullshit deception out of your ass, verify that it doesn't already exist with an entirely different meaning than the disinformational one you intend.Whenever you first use a new term, you need to define that term, which we all know that you will never do because you always refuse to! Like your use of that creationist dog whistle, "evolutionist".Therefore, every time you use "Christian scientist" that will immediately tell us that you are deliberately lying to us. Now to try to analyze and determine what the fuck you are talking about, since you never ever will tell us what the fuck you are talking about!So by calling purveyors of "creation science", "Christian scientists", you are trying to claim that there are two different kinds of science: Christian (ie, religion based) and secular (ie, actual science). By that measure, your "Christian science" is nothing but apologetics, which among you fundies has no purpose other than to defend your beliefs no matter how false or stupid they are and in the defense using whatever it takes, including lying about everything. IOW, "creation science", AKA creationism.There is no such thing as a distinction between "Christian science" (ie, religion-based science) and "secular science". You are lying by drawing a blatantly false dichotomy. The only purpose for creating a false dichotomy is to deceive. As in that false dichotomy, The Two Model Approach, which forms the foundation of that deliberate deception, "creation science". By its very nature, science is secular. Science studies how the natural universe works. Since we can only observe or work with natural processes and phenomena, science also can only work with natural processes and phenomena. We (ie, you and I) have established and agreed that it is impossible for us humans to deal with the supernatural since it we cannot detect it, observe it, test it, etc -- refer to my Message 2880 replying to your Message 2875. Therefore, since we cannot work with the supernatural then neither can science, science cannot include the supernatural.This issue was covered and discussed 16 years ago in So Just How is ID's Supernatural-based Science Supposed to Work? (SUM. MESSAGES ONLY) in which, after nearly 400 messages, nobody could offer any way in which a supernatural-based science could possibly work.Any form of "science" which includes and depends on religious beliefs could not possibly serve as a functional science. Science can only include and consider the natural, which is appropriate for the purpose of studying the natural world. Therefore, science is secular.That makes science NON-theistic, meaning that it doesn't include "God stuff". From your recent messages, you seem to not understand the difference between "NON-theistic" and "Atheistic", since you denounce subjects that are NON-theistic as being Atheistic, which is not only wrong but downright stupid. God never gets mentioned in algebra class, so you would denounce it as atheistic? Well, you had better get ready to become a Muslim, since the "God" you would need to include in algebra would be Allah.Just as in algebra, in science including "God" not only would serve no purpose, but including or leaving out "God" makes no difference in your results! Conducting an experiment or solving an equation does not depend on which "God" the scientist/mathematician believes in or not nor on whether he had muttered the right prayer or incantation. It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever!. Indeed, I even produced a mathematical "proof" (repeated in Message 2869) in which I included or excluded a "God term" to the same function and, since we get the exact same results with or without that "God term" then that "God term" equals ZERO.Therefore, trying to inject "God" into science only serves to reduce "God" to NOTHING. No, rather it's YEC and creationism against Creation. We've gone over this before.There is no inherent conflict between science and Divine Creation. Just as there is no inherent conflict between evolution and Divine Creation. If one believes in Divine Creation, then the natural world is a result of that Creation. Science studies the natural world, so it cannot conflict with the Creation. And evolution is the net result of life doing what life naturally does, which for a believer in Divine Creation would be because of the Creation. A believer in Divine Creation would see the Creation as proof of the Creator and a way to learn more about the Creator -- indeed, many believers who become scientists for precisely that reason.In sharp contrast, creationism opposes Divine Creation by placing their flawed theology (which is by definition Man-made and the product of fallible humans) over the Creation. This misleads creationists to rejecting and denying the Creation and teaching instead that if the Creation is truly as we find it to be that would disprove the Creator.A couple decades ago, a devout Christian grandfather, George H. Birkett, had his website on AOL (who offered web hosting from 1997 to 2008) but it was lost when AOL went out of the hosting business. One of his pages was "The First Testament" in which the First Testament was the Creation and the Second Testament was the Bible whose purpose was to prepare us for reading the First Testament. He also accepted evolution as a scientific explanation and had concerns about creation science, such as that creationists have chosen to worship the Bible instead of worshipping God.A similar idea was central to the filk song, The Word of God; the last verse:

The Word of God:

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And we who listen to the stars, or walk the dusty grade,
Or break the very atoms down to see how they are made,
Or study cells, or living things, seek truth with open hand.
The profoundest act of worship is to try to understand.
Deep in flower and in flesh, in star and soil and seed,
The truth has left its living word for anyone to read.
So turn and look where best you think the story is unfurled.
Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote the world.

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Clearly, the issue is creationism versus Divine Creation. Neither atheists nor "evolutionists" have anything to do with it.

Dwise, stop playing dumb. Biden's top agenda when
taking office was to close oil production in America.Only a Liberal (and trust me, I do not know one
Conservative who thinks this way) would think it wise
to cut production when demand is rising.Recently Trump was asked what he would do to curb
inflation and lower the price of gas.His answer was "drill baby drill."Biden and the Democrats in California pushed EV's as a
means of cutting petroleum use.Many of those who bought EV's were not able to charge
them. The power grid was far from adequate. How is it
that Conservative could see this outcome, but Liberals
could not?I will follow up with a post about EV's vs. petroleum
powered cars.Demonizing and defunding police has consequences.
How come Conservatives see this but Liberals cannot?It is the Liberals who want to take away our guns. Read
some of these efforts by Illinois, Washington, New York,
California, Oregon, etcc...What they want is to get their greedy paws on are rifles.
However, handguns are used to kill many more Americans
than rifles.Even knives are used to commit more murders than rifles.Google: U.S. Gun Deaths by Type of Gun.Conservative know why Liberals want our rifles, especially
those with high capacity magazines.Listen, I would never use a weapon to kill anyone. It is
against God's laws. However, the first thing to go before
socialism takes over are always the guns.How is it that the cities with the most gun control laws
are the cities experiencing the most homicides.The illegals are registering and they will vote in the next
presidential election. This is one of the reason that the
Liberals allow them to pour across the border.It is kind of telling that when these illegals are shipped to
Liberal controlled cities the Liberals then start to whine
and complain.They do not care about these illegal immigrants, they are
merely pawns in their ultimate goal.America has too large of a middle class to pit the rich
against the poor. They must destroy the middle class.Until this happens they pit Blacks against Whites,
Democrats against Republicans, and Christians against
atheists. And in every situation they blame the conflicts
on the Whites, the Republicans, and the Christians.They are dumbing America down.Our school standards are being lowered by every year. We
are constantly being outperformed by other developed
countries.Some of the undeveloped countries are passing us up.The Liberals are in complete control of our schools and
universities. And they have been for decades.They are
responsible for this.They care more about indoctrination than they do about
actually educating our kids.This is enough of this talk.But check out this Jen Psaki statement on YouTube, in
which she admits they are out to strip Americans of our rights."We Are Looking at Efforts to Prevent People From
Exercising Their Fundamental Rights."You know, like they do in socialist countries such as
North Korea and Venezuela.Stop getting all your news from indoctrination networks.When a news network is 100% one-sided a wise person
would question everything that the network says.Also on Youtube:"Varney: Trump Warned Europeans Against Relying on Russia,
for their oil, gas supplies."Energy prices in Europe are increasing at greatly
accelerated rates. Look it up.This same thing will happen to America, and soon.

I never have played dumb. You are projecting again. You are the one who can never answer a simple question but rather must try to divert the discussion off-topic with long, long posts filled with stupid bullshit that only a stupid idiot would say and which never addresses the message you are "replying" to.You are trying to divert us from the topic instead of just answering the questions:From Message 2911 YET AGAIN!!!:You stated that you would answer those question, but you have not done so! So then now you are trying to avoid providing those answers to a few simple direct questions by posting all kinds of irrelevant nonsense.So what's keeping you? Stop your stupid stalling games and answer the fucking questions!

GDR, I have stated on this forum many times that the
Word in John 1 is the member of The God family who
became Jesus.Verse 14 makes it clear that the Word became flesh
through a virgin birth.2Timothy 3:15-17 states that all scripture is given by
inspiration of God.All scripture is for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness.The Apostles taught from the scriptures years before the
books of the NT were written.Paul, in the Book of Romans, quoted from the OT 84
passages. In Hebrews he quoted the OT 83 times.He quoted from the OT in all His books except Philemon
and Titus.Paul tells us that our faith has been built upon the
foundation of the Apostles and the OT Prophets.
Ephesians 2:20.All of the NT writers quoted from the OT.Jesus believed in the accuracy of the OT. He states in
Luke 24:44,"These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was
yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were
written in the law of Moses, and in the Prophets, and in
the Psalms concerning me."45. "Then opened He their understanding, that they might
understand the scriptures."The only scripture at the time was the OT.Jesus is the central theme of both Testaments. He was
our Creator; He was the One who wrote the 10 Commandments
on stone; and, He was the One who led the Israelites out
of Egypt.Read 1Corinthians 10:1-4. Paul is very clear in that Jesus
(who at the time was the Word) was the One who led
the Israelites in the cloud.The OT makes many predictions about Jesus. Not one of
them has been false. Pretty good for a book of myths
isn't it?I will give just a few:1. He would be born of a virgin. Isaiah 7:14. Fulfilled Luke 1:35.2.Born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2. Fulfilled Matthew 2:4-6.3.Betrayed for 30 pieces of silver. Zechariah 11:12-13.
Fulfilled Matthew 27:6-10.4. Christ would become our Passover. Exodus 12:46.
Fulfilled 1Corinthians 5:7.5. They would cast lots for His clothes. Psalms 22:18.
Fulfilled John 19:23-24.6. They would pierce His hands and feet. Psalms 22:16.
Fulfilled John 19:36-37.7. The scepter would come through them Judah (the Jews)
Genesis 48:10.These are just a few. There are dozens of fulfilled OT
prophecies about Christ. I can give you more, I'd you wish.You say that we can find support in the Bible for almost
anything we want.Okay! Show me in the Bible where the OT is not to be
accepted literally.Show me where the OT it is said to be only a myth.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that candle2 is a Russian Chatbot. The level of person to person communications is hovering just above zero. And the bullshit meters exploded a couple years ago.

GDR, are you trying to equate the West with God? God
(Jesus) made those decisions to take life in the OT.God plainly tells us that He gives and He takes away. It is
also appointed for each of us to die.The bottom line with me is that I trust God to always
make the right choices.
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People are always blaming God. They blame Him when
He allows evil to exist, and they blame Him when He does
something about it.Also, you mentioned finding a verse in the Bible that one
can use to say pretty much anything.If you look at my posts (for instance, the ones about God
creating a family) you will see that I use many verses. I
utilize the writings of numerous authors.This is what God expects one to do. The example He
gives us is found in Isaiah 28:9-10."Whom shall He teach knowledge? And whom shall He
make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned
from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.""For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line; here a little and there a little."There are those who want to know more of God's truths.
But they refuse to believe what is clearly written in His
Holy Bible. When they do this He will not open their heart
and mind to understanding other scipture.

Sure. Read Matthew 5 and the opening to the "Sermon on the Mount". Just count the times when Jesus say that "you have heard it said but I tell you this" or some equivalent.
Jesus says that we are to love our enemies but the OT has Yahweh commanding genocide, as well as the command to love others.Jesus discounts the sabbath laws saying that "the Sabbath made for man, not man for the sabbath. Yahweh commands public stoning to death for the poor scmuck picking up firewood on the sabbath.Jesus tells us that "all the law and the prophets" hang on the command to love God and neighbour with Matthew bringing the the two ideas int one. In Matthew 25 we have the story of the sheep and the goats with the sheep being the ones that followed the command to love and with Jesus telling them that they served the least of them they were doing it for Him.Like I said, you are making a false idol out of the Bible. It becomes your focus of worship which is a doctrine that was born out of a response to enlightenment. Christianity is about serving the God whose nature was perfectly lived out in the person of Jesus.

Dwise, I don't like evolution being taught in schools as
though it is actuality science based.I don't mind people believing in something as fairytaleish
as evolution, but keep it to yourself.However, you will never take any explanation that I offer
about evolution.Now then, tell me how evolution works? Tell me how
exactly evolution has led to millions of different animals
and organisms.I want it in your words.I am not asking you about the origin of life, nor am I
asking how new codes and information is acquired.Just tell us your definition of evolution, and how evolution
has led to millions of organisms.I am not the one pushing evolution. You are.

GDR, you are exactly right. The Sabbath was made for man.
It was made for our benefit.Jesus, as both the Creator and Lord, of the Sabbath
intended for man to use the Sabbath day to rest from
our work.Since creation He gave us a weekly model to live our
life by. It is intended as a day to rest and to assemble
ourselves with other Christians.The fourth Commandment was the easiest for Satan
to attack. It was rather easy for him to manipulate us
with philosophical reasoning.Some reason that any day will be accepted as the Sabbath.
But, this not what the Bible states. Nor does the Bible
state that Sunday replaces the Sabbath.The Sabbath reminds us of the Creator. Those who observe
the Sabbath know that the teaching of evolution is satanic.GDR, since you are so full of love for your fellow man, are
you willing to die in the manner that Christ died for us?I can tell you right here and now that you would not.But, Christ, who has always existed with the other member
of the God family (Father), even before the universe was
created, separated Himself from Him for 33 and a half
years.They had never spent any time apart. The love between
them was/is deeper and stronger than we can imagine.Thirty three years is a very long time for a human to live
without having those whom they dearly love with them.When you look at God you only see what Satan has put in
your heart to see.There were many times that Christ went without food. He
was like all of us in that He could feel hunger. He could
feel sadness.I cannot imagine the number of times that He sought out
the opportunity to pray to Him, to gain some comfort from
Him.Christ loves us so much that He put Himself through a
living hell in order to gain us a resurrection from death.You should study up about crucifixion and the Roman
Licters who were given the responsibility of scouring
the condemned.They were highly trained and efficient and bringing the
condemned close to death without crossing over.Licters used a short rod with leather straps attached to
it. Pieces of metal, bones, glass, ets..., were attached to
the end of each strap.Each time the Licter hit Jesus with this cat-o-nine tails
chucks of meat were ripped from Him.He was then forced to carry His own crucifixion beam.
when He could no longer carry it, it was carried for Him.While He was nailed to the beam it was very difficult for
Him to breathe. Each time He took a breath He had to push
Himself up against nails in His hands an feet.Jesus dreaded this so much that He sweated blood. He
prayed to His Father asking if there were another way.But, there was not. His death as our Creator was/is the
only thing that could pay the penalty for sin in our place.He was not forced to do this. It was His choice. It was
a decision based on tremendous love.We need to keep in mind that we were bought at a price.
It was a tremendous price.It is the greatest act of love that I can imagine. The very
One who created us was willing to humble Himself and
died in such a manner.GDR. where you have accusations, I have praise.There is coming a time to where men will pray for the
mountains to fall on them to hide them from the wrath
of God.Men hearts will fail them out of fear.God can punish in the same way that loving parents do.However, God knows what it will take to correct the world.GDR, you are free to believe anything you want to believe
about the Bible.After all, you are responsible for your life, not me.

GDR, you state that all the Commandments hang on two.
They are to love God with all our heart and to love our
neighbor as we love ourself.The other Commandments hinge on these two.The first four Commandments are in reference to our
relationship with God. The last six concerns our
relationship with our fellow man.Which of the first four Commandments are we free to
discard, and why?Which of the last six are we free to discard, and why?What did Jesus mean when He said, "if you love me, you
will keep my Commandments," and My Commandments
are nor grievous."You seen to think that I am making an idol of the Bible
simply because I trust it and follow it.What a weird way to think.

I have no problem with any of those 4. However you break #2 all the time by making a false idol out of the Bible and discounting Yahweh who we can understand as being perfectly embodied by Jesus. No problem with the last six either. However as you agreed Jesus says that sabbath was meant for us to give us rest. It is not meant to be treated legalistically. If you needed firewood to keep your family warm on a cold sabbath day would you go pick some up? You seem to believe that if you were to do that God would want you cruelly executed by your neighbours....and that's not weird.

Sorry, but evolution is a part of science and therefore it's "actuality science based. It belongs in science class and needs to be learned, especially by creationists (much more on that below). Indeed:

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"Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light, it becomes a pile of sundry facts -- some of them interesting or curious, but making no meaningful picture as a whole. . . . Does the evolutionary doctrine clash with religious faith? It does not. It is a blunder to mistake the Holy Scriptures for elementary textbooks of astronomy, geology, biology, and anthropology. Only if symbols are construed to mean what they are not intended to mean can there arise imaginary, insoluble conflicts. As pointed out above, the blunder leads to blasphemy: the Creator is accused of systematic deceitfulness."

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(Theodosius Dobzhansky, Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution, American Biology Teacher 35:125-129 (March 1973), p. 129:)

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Supporting that was the experience of Dr. Eugenie Scott when she was teaching Physical Anthropology. At her university, undergraduate biology students weren't taught evolution, but she did. Every semester, she'd get a number of biology seniors taking her class to satisfy their degree's elective requirements, figuring it would be an easy A ("The poor fools!", she said). Then throughout the semester she would watch the light suddenly go on in each one's head: "So that is why ... !" In four years they had learned all kinds of facts and factoids, none of which really made much sense, until now that they had learned evolution. Similarly, my nephew hated science class because of how it was taught, tons of individual facts to memorize without anything to tie them together. My sons excelled in science class, because their mother and I had raised them with our attitude that it does all tie together and here is how; armed with that, we could reason through all kinds of new information and be able to see when something didn't quite make sense.In the history of the revival of the 1920's anti-evolution movement leading to the creation of that deliberately crafted deception, "creation science" (AKA "scientific creationism"), the four-decades-long successful barring of evolution from public schools was broken by the Biological Sciences Curriculum Study (BSCS) biology text books written by actual biologists instead of by professional textbook writers -- that series was written as part of our "closing the science education gap" with the Soviets after they surprised us by launching Sputnik (revisit the movie, Dr. Strangelove to hear the rhetoric of "we must close the missile gap", "... bomb gap", "... mine gap", etc, still popular c. 1964 though no longer when I saw it in high school (1966-1969) so it sounded a bit foreign to my young ears). Being biologists, the BSCS authors knew that evolution is the cornerstone of biology, so their textbooks were filled with evolution. The school district in Little Rock, AR, adopted the BSCS textbooks which put biology teacher Susan Epperson in jeopardy of losing her teaching credential for violating the Arkansas "monkey law", which led to her lawsuit, which led to the US Supreme Court decision, Epperson v. Arkansas (1968), led to the striking down of all the monkey laws, which awakened the anti-evolution movement who wasted half a decade using their religious purpose in court (and losing) until they figured out that they had to hide their religious purpose, hence "creation science" (as we have discussed several times before).But of course, I'm talking about evolution, whereas you are not. That's the source of your problem and of your terminal confusion: You do not know what evolution is so you base everything on creationist lies about "evolution". You use the word, "evolution", to describe something that has practically nothing at all to do with evolution.I would also not want what you call "evolution" to be taught in schools, but then that is not evolution, now is it? Your "evolution" is indeed "fairytaleish" (especially with its utter nonsense such as having dogs give birth to kittens) and you should keep it to yourself!Above I wrote: The way for you to stop being misled and deceived by creationist lies about "evolution" is to learn evolution. That is especially true if you want to actually fight against evolution. If you were to know what evolution actually is, then you could direct all your efforts against evolution instead of against a stupid bullshit creationist strawman that has practically nothing whatsoever to do with your real target.Amazon Prime had a documentary about the WWII US Army unit, 23rd Headquarters Special Troops, AKA "The Ghost Army":

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The 1,100-man unit was given a unique mission: to deceive Hitler's forces and mislead them as to the size and location of Allied forces, while giving the actual units elsewhere time to maneuver. Activated on January 20, 1944, the Ghost Army arrived in Europe in May shortly before D-Day and returned to the US at the end of the war in July 1945. During their tenure, the Ghost Army carried out more than 20 deception campaigns, putting on a "traveling road show" using inflatable tanks, sound trucks, fake radio transmissions, scripts and pretense.

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Your bullshit strawman "evolution" is nothing but a ghost decoying you away from your real enemy. And you fell for it, you idiot!I'll continue after I return from class.