Choosing a faith

Are you truly so clueless that you don't grasp the argument Tangle is making? There are no gods, but if there were, they are responsible for the evil in the world, and yes the good. And now the anti-semitism. As I remember, the story says the Romans crucified that dude.

No. I'm an atheist remember, god does not exist. We're evolved apes; we’ve inherited their anatomy, their chemistry and their behaviours.Over the last 200,000 years or so we've been evolving away from them and are discovering ways that we can mitigate the worst traits of a species that was forced to compete for life or die, and encourage the good traits that allowed them to live communally.Our man-made modern society makes us responsible for our own behaviour but individuals within it are not equally capable of compliance - for all sorts of reasons, one of which is how our brains get wired before and after birth. Again, that's just a rationalisation of your own belief. Satan has been a cornerstone of Christianity for millennia, your particular flavour of belief is a modern minority. Satan is at least biblical. We've done this a thousand times. It's not 'explained away', it's simply explained. 2,000 years of Christianity is wrong - who knew?! But I'm not seeing any reason why you're right either - other than it's a nicer variant that you prefer.

Tangle, what atheists won't believe in order to not
acknowledge the Creator.Do you want to know something that reeks of utter
ignorance?Atheists believe that in the beginning there was nothing.One day this nothing exploded and nothing became
everything.Eventually nothing that became everything arranged
itself into galaxies, solar systems and planets.And then miraculously nothing begat self-replicating, and
intricately complex life forms.To date nothing has spawned over 10,000,000 differing
organisms.Imagine that! Atheists and Evolutionists assert that this
only happened once; that it had no witnesses; and, that
it will never happen again. It all began billions of years
ago.This is not scientific, it's science fiction. It should also be
extremely embarrassing.Since you are claiming these ridiculous assertion to be
fact, I demand 100% proof.Give us one example of an evolutionary process or a
single genetic mutation which can be seen to increase
the useful and beneficial INFORMATION in the genome.In addition, we want you to document just one 100%
verifiable transitional fossil that proves, without question,
that one species changed into another completely
different species.You should have millions of verifiable examples. I ask for
just one.Atheists say that the evolutionary theory only involves
the evolutionary process of living things.Then how does evolution explain the appearance of the
atom and it's quantum particles?Evolutionists should know that atoms are non-living; yet,
they are the substance of everything that is both living
and non-living.Remember that atheists and evolutionists state as fact
that everything (including atoms, etc...) came from nothing
billions of years ago.Since Atheists do believe that everything, both living and
non-living, came from nothing, and since they believe
that life came from rocks, how can they state that a
perfectly reliable watch did not come from a rock?The simplest form of life is vastly more complex than a
watch.If evolution is a ridiculous and silly answer for how a
watch (NL) came to be, then imagine how silly it is to
accept without evidence that all living things came via
evolution.

Critics will argue that neither atheists nor believers *know* what there was in the beginning. The key argument here is knowledge vs belief. Again, you cant speak for *all* or even *some*atheists and evolutionists. You are putting up a strawman argument.Address Tangle. Dont lump him in with a large anonymous "group".

Who made us the arbitrator of what God or gods were required to do?

We did when we created the gods and wrote their stories.It's what we do.
(catch-phrase of lead character in Wormhole X-Treme!, patterned after Col. Jack O'Neill)

Provide evidence of a god or gods and we can talk.

I'm not equipped to discuss evolution but I understood that we didn't evolve from apes but that we shared a common ancestor. I don't argue against that. However that does not preclude my belief that there a silent voice that speaks to our minds and hearts that influences us, so that we can understand, whether we ignore that voice or not, to understand that we should live by the law of love which is essentially the Golden Rule.My brother and family just arrived. I'll answer the rest later.

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And now the anti-semitism. As I remember, the story says the Romans crucified that dude.

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He also doesn’t mention Jesus violently disrupting the businesses in the Temple courtyard.

Well, Phat, that would be me. I determined what the gods could/not do. Sadly, none of them passed the vetting process and had to be dissolved back into the void. I killed your gods, Phat. All of them. And all I did was think. Wow. Kill all the gods with the mind of an ape. Same one what made them, actually. Yes, this universe contains a lot of irony.Anyway, sorry about ... no, not so sorry about your gods, Phat.

I assume that your blithering nonsense is supposed to have something to do with "Big Bang", right?Your complete misrepresentation of such ideas have nothing to do those ideas. All you succeed in doing is to expose yet again how stupidly ignorant you are about ... well, just about everything.Instead of rotting what remains of your brain with creationist bullshit lies, learn something! Even though that runs counter to your religion which requires you to remain a fucking stupid idiot. I disagree, since your bullshit lies are of such poor quality that they cannot rise to the level of science fiction.What you describe is nothing but stupid bullshit creationist lies. Nobody believes what you describe except for stupid lying creationists!You should be extremely embarrassed for uttering such stupid lies, but you are not. You have no shame. What a horrible god you serve. Yet again, NOBODY CLAIMS THAT RIDICULOUS ASSERTION EXCEPT FOR YOU!Therefore, WE demand of YOU 100% proof that anybody except for you lying creationists believes your ridiculous assertion to be true!Of course, you will never even attempt to respond to our demand. Typical creationist! No, that is a lie, you fucking lying piece of shit!And fuck your stupid God of Lies, too! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?You start out far closer to the truth than you have ever wandered, but then you go full-blown BOZO! Evolution has nothing to do with the formation of atoms! WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER IDIOCY WOULD LEAD YOU TO THINK OTHERWISE?You can use the word "evolution" all you want to to refer to some stupid bullshit in your head that has nothing whatsoever to do with evolution, but that will never ever make your stupid bullshit scapegoat evolution.IOW, the teachings of your Sankt Goebbels are wrong: no matter how many times you repeat the same stupid Big Lie, it never becomes true. So fuck your stupid God of Lies and stop lying!You have yet again demonstrated that you have absolutely no idea what evolution is, but just what the fuck do you think evolution is? IOW, what the fuck are you talking about? IOW, ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION!:

Just a humorous aside.I assist a dance teacher with her events, mainly by manning the door and handling the money. She partners with another promoter, a conservative Christian, for a monthly Christian dance, so she recruited me to work the door for them. No problem for me, since I share some history with many of the attendees and so have several friends and acquaintances, plus it does contribute to the overall dance community.In his promotional emails, he acknowledges the teachers, DJs, and food preparer, giving each one a title; eg, "Teacher", "DJ", "Kitchen Queen". He doesn't list me, which is a good thing since my title would be "Money Changer", which I suspect would not go over well with that crowd. The joke would have become old even before the first time they'd overturn my table.

We are apes descended from apes, modern apes share a common ancestor with modern humans.It's not controversial that we share traits and behaviours with modern apes and other related species. In fact it would be absolutely astonishing if we didn't.I believe you accept evolution? This is what it means. You can believe anything you like, but there are no voices - that's just a silly and embarassing religious story.

You're changing the subject. Again.Do homosexuals and paedophiles exist? If so, who or what created them?

As others have pointed out we are apes, it's monkeys that we only share a common ancestor with. So just to clarify, we aren't monkeys but we are apes.