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Message 1711 of 1864 (910085)
04-16-2023 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1709 by candle2
04-16-2023 11:07 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
In other words, she is sinless.
For the detection and destruction of evil spirits ...
quote:
1 Bring the Kimidin hither, bring the Yātudhāna self-declared
For Agni, God, thou, lauded, hast become the Dasyu's
slaughterer.
2 O Jātavedas, Lord Supreme, controller of our bodies, taste
The butter, Agni, taste the oil: make thou the Yātudhānas
mourn.
3 Let Yātudhānas mourn, let all greedy Kimidins weep and
wail:
And, Agni, Indra, may ye both accept this sacrifice of ours.
4 May Agni seize upon them first, may strong-armed Indra drive
them forth:
Let every wicked sorcerer come hither and say, Here am I.
5 Let us behold thy strength, O Jātavedas. Viewer of men, tell us
the Yātudhānas.
Burnt by thy heat and making declaration let all approach this
sacrifice before thee.
6 O Jātavedas, seize, on them: for our advantage art thou born:
Agni, be thou our messenger and make the Yātudhānas wail.
7 O Agni, bring thou hitherward the Yātudhānas bound and
chained.
And afterward let Indra tear their heads off with his thunder-bolt.
- HYMN VII. Atharva Veda.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1712 of 1864 (910096)
04-16-2023 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1667 by Dredge
04-11-2023 1:24 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge, the RCC does not believe that Christ's blood is
capable of cleansing a Christian from all sins. It takes
the RCC to do that.
CCC, paragraph 1030: "All who die in God's grace and
friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured
of their eternal salvation, but after death they undergo
purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to
enter the joy of heaven."
Purification refers to cleansing of contaminants, in this
case sin.
Paragraph 1032 prescribes prayers for the dead.
Isaiah 53:5 states that with His (Jesus) stripes we are
healed.
1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light,
we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of
Jesus Christ, His Son, cleanseth us from all sins.
Colossians 1:14 "In whom we have redemption through
His blood, even the forgiveness of sins."
I certainly would not want to be someone who tells
Christ that His blood still leaves us somewhat contaminated.

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Message 1713 of 1864 (910097)
04-16-2023 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 1711 by AZPaul3
04-16-2023 11:37 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
AZ, I will not attack you for what you believe.
In fact, I stand by you in your right to believe it.
Good luck.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1714 of 1864 (910100)
04-16-2023 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1713 by candle2
04-16-2023 12:39 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
I stand by you in your right to believe it.
Thank you.
What I believe is that you are a religious zealot with limited critical thinking skills. What I believe is that, because of your defects, you believe in fantasies as a life's guide and you then proselytize these defective fantasies to others as a false remedy for death.
As history has shown so many times, to paraphrase Voltaire, those who believe absurdities can justify atrocities. Religion is known as a violent poisonous philosophy which manifests as prejudice, hatred, blood, terror and war.
What I believe is that you are an evil agent spreading this religious poison in the mind of the human species. You should stop.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1715 of 1864 (910104)
04-16-2023 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1706 by Tangle
04-15-2023 5:36 PM


Tangled writes:
Daniel A. Helminiak, an American Catholic priest, theologian and author of "What the Bible Really Says about Homosexuality"
Helminiak is a self-confessed faggot. His faggot "theology" is less than worthless and he rejects the Catholic Church's teaching that homosexual acts are gravely sinful. This sicko is a fake Catholic and unfit to be a Catholic priest.
Theodore W. Jennings Jr. and Tat-Siong Benny Liew
Neither of these sick fools are Catholic. Judging by his disgusting writings, Tat-Siong Benny Liew is obviously a fag and obviously mentally ill.
The fact that you saw fit to quote these degenerate losers proves just how sick you are.
Sickos attract sickos and evil attracts evil.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1716 of 1864 (910106)
04-16-2023 3:34 PM
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04-16-2023 3:27 PM


Neither of these sick fools are Catholic.
But they are way more christian than you and your evil un-christian non-jesus catholic church.
So if it's not jesus meat in the crackers who is it?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1717 of 1864 (910107)
04-16-2023 3:37 PM
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04-16-2023 3:27 PM


Touched a nerve did I, lawyer?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 1718 of 1864 (910108)
04-16-2023 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1667 by Dredge
04-11-2023 1:24 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge, CCC, paragraph 1471:
"An indulgence is a remission before God of the
temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has
already been forgiven, which the faithful Christian who
is duly disposed gains under certain prescribed
conditions through the actions of the church which, as
the minister of redemption, dispenses and applies with
authority."
Also CCC, 1471 states that indulgences can be purchased
to remove sins from those already dead.
The RCC has sold indulgences in to past in order to
procure monetary gains.
Indulgences were used in New York in 2008 and 2012
and 2013.
It is still in use by the church.

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Message 1719 of 1864 (910109)
04-16-2023 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1714 by AZPaul3
04-16-2023 1:34 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
AZ, I could not care any less about your opinions.
When you have something of importance to relay, let
me know.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1720 of 1864 (910110)
04-16-2023 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1719 by candle2
04-16-2023 3:49 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
AZ, I could not care any less about your opinions.
And I couldn't care less about yours either except as they harm others.
Fact, your religious history has been a bloody terror for millennia. This is not opinion. We have religiously inspired and religiously supported atrocities by name and date by the thousands spanning all of history.
Fact, your religious thought processes have justified these heinous crimes against humanity using the twisted words of your scriptures ... demonstrating your gods approval for evil incenting more atrocities by your adherents.
Not opinion. Religion, demonstrably, is poison to the human experience and should be rejected.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1721 of 1864 (910112)
04-17-2023 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1714 by AZPaul3
04-16-2023 1:34 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
AZ, you have never read that I think people should be
forced, against their will, to pledge allegiance to God.
A commitment to Him must be voluntary.
My posts have generally been to show that God is a
loving God. And, that He intends to give eternal life to
all who gives Him the opportunity to instill His
character into them.
In the simplest vernacular, God commands us to love
one another; to do unto others as we would have them
do to us.
1 Peter 4:8 states that love covers a multitude of sins.
God will give everyone the same opportunity and access
to Him, but it will be by His timeline.
The vast majority of all who have ever lived will receive
their first and only calling after the second resurrection.
Even those who God directly killed in the OT will be
resurrected and offered an opportunity to eternal life.
Everyone who is raised under the influence of a
different religion will be given their opportunity.
Contrary to the RCC, and all her daughter churches, God
has no desire to punish sinful humans for eternity. But, He
is not going to give them eternal life in order that they can
live forever in misery.
How can one complain about God. If one chooses to not
allow Him into his heart, and the individual believes
eternal death is preferable to loving God, then he is
simply free to make a choice.
If one is satisfied with his choice then why complain.
I have spoken out about all the evil acts committed by
the RCC and her daughters.
Many who call themselves Christians expect others to
live their lives in ways that are contrary to God's laws.
Many evil acts have been committed in the name of
religion.
When they do this we blame God.
If a conductor is playing Mozart, and doing it badly, do
we blame Mozart or the conductor?

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AZPaul3
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Message 1722 of 1864 (910130)
04-17-2023 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1721 by candle2
04-17-2023 7:47 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
A long winded way of saying nothing.
Your gods are not a problem. They do not exist. What exists are your conceptions of gods and your jealousies over the perceived power rankings of your favored gods over the pantheon of others.
Petty bickering over such fantasy problems leads religion's acolytes to evil. Your gods are not the evil ones. You are.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1723 of 1864 (910131)
04-17-2023 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1720 by AZPaul3
04-16-2023 4:40 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
APauling666 writes:
your religious history has been a bloody terror for millennia.
Your knowledge of history appears to be a tad limited. Communist (ie, atheist) regimes killed at least 100 million people in less than a century.
That makes the death toll from 2000 years of Christianity look like a picnic.
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

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Message 1724 of 1864 (910134)
04-17-2023 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1723 by Dredge
04-17-2023 2:03 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge writes:
Your knowledge of history appears to be a tad limited. Communist (ie, atheist) regimes killed at least 100 million people in less than a century.
Lest you forget, atheism is only a disbelief in god(s).
Nobody goes to war because of a disbelief in god(s). There are no holy atheist wars.
Dictatorship under the guise of communism is the dogma that those vicious regimes killed for.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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AZPaul3
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Message 1725 of 1864 (910141)
04-17-2023 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1723 by Dredge
04-17-2023 2:03 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Ahh, deflection. Smoke and mirrors. When the truth hurts, try to hide it.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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