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Topic: The Meaning Of The Trinity
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Phat
Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 1591 of 1864 (909433)
04-03-2023 8:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 1588 by AZPaul3
04-03-2023 11:53 AM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
God created us long before we even had the capability to imagine Him. His magic preceded the occultic majik of the mystery religions.
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candle2
Member Posts: 850 Joined: 12-31-2018 Member Rating: 1.2
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Message 1592 of 1864 (909448)
04-04-2023 8:11 AM
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Reply to: Message 1582 by Tangle
04-02-2023 4:45 PM
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Re: IF Jesus is/was a myth
Tangle, every thing that you wrote is true, or moving in that direction. But, the Holy Bible recorded the same prophecies centuries ago. You are merely asserting, an truthfully I might add, what the Bible says is a great falling away. I could cite dozens of examples where the Holy Bible states this, but here are just a few. 2 Thessolonians 2:3 2 Timothy 3:entire chapter Matthew 24: Satan's deception becomes so great that even God's elect could be deceived if God did not keep them focused. Matthew 24:24.
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candle2
Member Posts: 850 Joined: 12-31-2018 Member Rating: 1.2
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Message 1593 of 1864 (909450)
04-04-2023 8:24 AM
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Reply to: Message 1587 by Dredge
04-03-2023 11:17 AM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge, I know where the true Church is. But, I am nor trying to recruit anyone to it. God will recruit whom He will. I suggest that anyone seeking God to seek Him with all their heart. That they pray to Him and Him only. Be like the Bereans; they searched the scriptures daily to see if what they were hearing was Biblically true.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1594 of 1864 (909456)
04-04-2023 9:07 AM
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Reply to: Message 1592 by candle2
04-04-2023 8:11 AM
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Re: IF Jesus is/was a myth
candle writes: atan's deception becomes so great that even God's elect could be deceived if God did not keep them focused. Matthew 24:24. “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Yoda
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Phat
Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 1595 of 1864 (909461)
04-04-2023 10:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 1594 by Tangle
04-04-2023 9:07 AM
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Re: IF Jesus is/was a myth
Yoda notwithstanding, this 30 second short may sum up one argument. ( Thanks to the Cosmic Skeptic) https://youtube.com/shorts/Fa5tyqJOqfs?feature=share If God (through Jesus) was NOT a myth, what would humans arguably owe Him?
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1596 of 1864 (909468)
04-04-2023 11:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 1593 by candle2
04-04-2023 8:24 AM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
candle2 writes: I know where the true Church is
No, you don't. Your phantasmagorical "church" exists only in your mind ... and is as far from the Church described in Acts as east is from west. Your nothing "church" has only one member - you.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1597 of 1864 (909472)
04-04-2023 11:41 AM
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Reply to: Message 1594 by Tangle
04-04-2023 9:07 AM
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Re: IF Jesus is/was a myth
Tangled writes: Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Yoda
"I think only an idiot can be an atheist." Christian B. Anfinsen, former Professor of Biology and (Physical) Biochemistry, winner of the 1972 Nobel Prize for Chemistry.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1598 of 1864 (909476)
04-04-2023 12:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 1597 by Dredge
04-04-2023 11:41 AM
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Re: IF Jesus is/was a myth
So, given your quote, isn't it time you stopped making atheist scientists your bogeyman?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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candle2
Member Posts: 850 Joined: 12-31-2018 Member Rating: 1.2
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Message 1599 of 1864 (909482)
04-04-2023 1:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 1594 by Tangle
04-04-2023 9:07 AM
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Re: IF Jesus is/was a myth
Tangle, you will never hear me say that I fear anything. I love God. And, I agree with His purpose. I also agree with the method He's employing to bring it to fruition. It is impossible to have God in one's life and still be governed by fear. You're barking up the wrong tree.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1600 of 1864 (909483)
04-04-2023 1:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 1599 by candle2
04-04-2023 1:20 PM
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"Villain, I have done thy mother" Shakespeare
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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candle2
Member Posts: 850 Joined: 12-31-2018 Member Rating: 1.2
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Message 1601 of 1864 (909485)
04-04-2023 2:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 1596 by Dredge
04-04-2023 11:22 AM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge, who gave the RCC the authority to replace God's 7th Day Sabbath with Sunday? Who gave the RCC the authority to abolish the 2nd Commandment? The 2nd Commandment states: "Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in the heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:" "Thou shall not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:..." The RCC is filled to the brim with statues and idol. The RCC bows down to these idols. The RCC also worships relics (bones and bone fragments). How is this different than, say, voodoo?
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1602 of 1864 (909490)
04-04-2023 3:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 1601 by candle2
04-04-2023 2:42 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
candle2 writes: who gave the RCC the authority to replace God's 7th Day Sabbath with Sunday?
God ... who expresses his will through his Church, lead by the Pope, to whom Jesus gave "the keys of the kingdom of heaven " (Matt 16:19).
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1603 of 1864 (909491)
04-04-2023 3:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 1601 by candle2
04-04-2023 2:42 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
candle2 writes: The RCC is filled to the brim with statues and idol. The RCC bows down to these idols.
Catholics don't worship statues and idols. Only superstitious pagans would be stupid enough to worship a statue. Bowing down doesn't always equal worship. There is enty of bowing down in the Bible that isn't worship.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1604 of 1864 (909492)
04-04-2023 4:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 1601 by candle2
04-04-2023 2:42 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
candle2 writes: The RCC also worships relics (bones and bone fragments).
Catholics don't worship relics or bones. Catholics worship God alone.
The RCC also worships relics (bones and bone fragments).
"And God did extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, so that handkerchiefs or aprons were carried away from his body to the sick, and diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them" (Acts 19:11-22). Just substitute "handkerchiefs or aprons" with "the relics/bones of saints" and you might start to understand Catholics value the relics and bones of saints. God can perform miracles even through inanimate objects ... so says your Bible.
How is this different than, say, voodoo?
I don't know much about voodoo.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 1605 of 1864 (909493)
04-04-2023 4:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 1604 by Dredge
04-04-2023 4:03 PM
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Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
The line between veneration and worship is very narrow, if not nonexistent.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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