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Message 714 of 1864 (900258)
10-25-2022 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 713 by Pollux
10-25-2022 4:31 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Genetically the person could be XX, XY, or have other chromosome abnormalities.
Such as:
  • 47,XXY (Klinefelter syndrome):
    quote:
    Klinefelter syndrome is one of the most common chromosomal disorders, occurring in one to two per 1,000 live male births. It is named after American endocrinologist Harry Klinefelter, who identified the condition in the 1940s. In 1956, the extra X chromosome was identified as the cause. Mice can also have the XXY syndrome, making them a useful research model.
  • 47,XYY (Jacobs syndrome):
    quote:
    The condition is generally not inherited from a person's parents but rather occurs as a result of a random event during sperm development. Diagnosis is by a chromosomal analysis, but most of those affected are not diagnosed within their lifetime. There are 47 chromosomes, instead of the usual 46, giving a 47,XYY karyotype.
    Treatment may include speech therapy or extra help with schoolwork, but outcomes are generally good. The condition occurs in about 1 in 1,000 male births. Many people with the condition are unaware that they have it. The condition was first described in 1961.
  • 47,XXX (Trisomy X):
    quote:
    Trisomy X, also known as triple X syndrome and characterized by the karyotype 47,XXX, is a chromosome disorder in which a female has an extra copy of the X chromosome. It is relatively common and occurs in 1 in 1,000 women but it is rarely diagnosed; fewer than 10% of those with the condition know they have it.
    Those who have symptoms can have learning disabilities, mild dysmorphic features such as hypertelorism (wide-spaced eyes) and clinodactyly (incurved little fingers), early menopause, and increased height. The average intelligence quotient (IQ) in trisomy X is 85–90. As the symptoms of trisomy X are often not serious enough to prompt a karyotype test, many cases of trisomy X are diagnosed before birth via prenatal screening tests such as amniocentesis. Research on girls and women with the disorder finds that cases which were diagnosed postnatally, having been referred for testing because of obvious symptoms, are generally more severe than those diagnosed prenatally. Most women with trisomy X live normal lives, although their socioeconomic status is reduced compared to the general population.
We covered that in my high school biology class (1966) where one of those conditions was called "super-male". Don't biology classes cover the subject of chromosomal abnormalities anymore? Looks like the fundamentalist political agenda of destroying science education has been making progress to the detriment of everybody.
 
There's another deformity. I forget what its name is and whether it is congenital or acquired. The population in which it occurs the most is among right wingnuts.
It's where one's head embeds itself in the large intestine via the rectum. That can help to explain their shitty attitude towards everything as well as their voracious appetite for bullshit.
There is a cure, but the afflicted refuse treatment. Instead, they'd rather opt for a treatment of the symptom in which their sternum is replaced with a transparent plastic panel. That way they can at least see where they're going.

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Message 730 of 1864 (900352)
10-26-2022 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 722 by candle2
10-26-2022 3:06 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Nwr, are you saying that God despises those who try to
protect innocent life?
From my own Christian training, God would despise those who try to kill innocent people. Like you are trying to kill women!
When you prevent women from receiving necessary medical treatment for a life-threatening medical emergency, then you are trying to kill them.
There are many ways in which a pregnancy can fail, many (if not most) of which can kill the woman if the necessary medical treatment is not administered. That necessary medical treatment is abortion, which if not performed will kill the mother (which in turn would kill the fetus, so it's a lose-lose situation). But these bullshit anti-abortion laws are scaring doctors into not daring to provide the medical treatment that they know is the only possible treatment to save her life for fear of long prison sentences under your stupid anti-abortion laws. The blood of so many women will be on your hands!
Everybody knows about ectopic pregnancies in which the zygote attaches outside the uterus. Extremely dangerous and painful, often kills the mother and almost never does the fetus survive. Abortion is the only treatment. Without treatment, if the woman does somehow survive she will very likely never be able to have another baby.
There's also the problem of premature rupturing of the amniotic sack, AKA "her water breaking". According to our prenatal training, once the water breaks then that baby needs to be at least in the process of being born within 24 hours. That rupture allows bacteria to get into the sack where, after 24 hours, infection will set in that will attack the fetus and the mother, killing both. That fetus (or embryo, since this can happen at any point of the pregnancy) has to come out! If it is far enough along to be viable, then it will be a premature birth. But if not, then it must be aborted. No abortion results in the embryo/fetus dying anyway plus the agonizing prolonged death of the mother!
There are also cases in which the fetus dies and starts to decompose inside the mother, but its "heart beat" continues so your stupid laws forbid doctors from intervening to save the life and reproductive health of the mother. She has to walk around for days getting sicker and sicker, wearing diapers which she keeps filling with her own blood, waiting for that damned heart beat to stop and helplessly hoping that it will stop before it's too late for her.
 
How dare you call yourself "pro-life"! You are part of a death cult which revels in human suffering and in the sacrifice of human life on the altar of your beliefs. You only believe in life before birth and after death, whereas we are the ones who are actually pro-life since we believe in life after birth and before death.
And stop pretending that you know what a Christian is.
t's comical.
We know far too well what Christians are. You yourself are a fine example of the sadistic lying evil which is at the core of "true Christians".
It would be comical if not for the widespread suffering and damage that you cause.

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Message 760 of 1864 (900626)
10-29-2022 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 758 by ringo
10-28-2022 1:31 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
candle2 writes:
The Republican Party, took us back to the Constitution,
that all men are created equal
Abraham Lincoln would weep if he saw the thugs in the Republican Party today.
Republicans still crow that they're "The Party of Lincoln", but they stopped being that about 145 years ago with Republican President Rutherford Hayes' election in 1876 in large part through support from the South in exchange for bringing Reconstruction to a premature end, thus ending the "Party of Lincoln". U.S. Grant was the last Republican president to still support Reconstruction, but now the South was free to pass "Jim Crow" laws to promote inequality, meaning that candle2's lie, "that all men are created equal", is just that, a lie. Just as 06 Jan 2021 exposes his lie about the GOP "[taking] us back to the Constitution".
For that matter, I cannot think of a single Republican president after Grant who did anything good for the country. Indeed, the pattern this past half century has been one of the Republicans destroying the economy so that the next president, a Democrat, had to clean up their mess (with zero support and active resistance from the Republicans). Checking the figures makes it abundantly clear that the economy always does better under the Democrats than under the Republicans.
Though I can think of one exception to that rule: President Eisenhower. But he doesn't really count since he wasn't very political -- both parties tried to recruit him as a presidential nominee. Rather, he had been an effective general and applied those pragmatic skills to his new duty assignment.
Ike's best known achievement was the Interstate Highway System. Most people claim that he got the idea from seeing Germany's Autobahn system how it had functioned in military transportation during the war, but they forget the lessons brevet Lt.Col. Eisenhower learned from his participation in the 1919 1919 Motor Transport Corps convoy. That convoy drove over 3,000 mi on the historic Lincoln Highway from Washington, D.C., to Oakland, California and then by ferry over to end in San Francisco. It took them 56 days to complete the journey due to the bad roads and the need to stop and repair the many bridges (14 in Wyoming alone) that they either broke or else were in such obviously bad condition as to be unusable. As President, Ike was able to put his experience to good use in promoting the Interstate Highway System as a military priority.
Now under a Democrat we finally have an infrastructure law to repair and improve what Ike had built, contrasting with an endless parade of "nothing-burger" "infrastructure weeks" under Trump. The Trump administration with its wild promises and zero delivery on those promises was like a joke I read in that teen magazine, Playboy (paraphrased from memory of a single reading more than half a century ago):
quote:
A woman goes to her new gynecologist for her first exam with him. Although she's been married three times, he is astonished to discover that she's still a virgin. Her explanation is that her first two husbands were absent all the time (I can only remember that one of them was a fireman), but her third husband delivers the punchline. Her third husband was a great salesman. He would spend all evening selling her on how incredibly great the sex would be, but then never delivered the goods.
That just seems to sum up Trump so well: all boast, no show.

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Message 766 of 1864 (900828)
11-01-2022 1:27 AM
Reply to: Message 765 by candle2
10-31-2022 7:52 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
darkness-emitting-candle, your MAGAt-infested mind has an extremely distorted and false sense of history. So then science and reality are not the only things you don't know?
Dwise, the Democratic Party is responsible for Jim Crow
laws.
OK, I've heard this bullshit from MAGAts before. Let's review the actual history, not your stupid bullshit.
To start with, you are overlooking a very small part of US history, so small that went right past you without you noticing it: the Twentieth Century, plus the stupid BS the GOP has been pulling for the past few decades.
But the biggest bullshit moment lies in the simple fact that while the Democratic Party has changed immensely since then, all the bad racist attitudes and practices have transferred to the current Republican Party. You hypocrite!
We started with the Democratic-Republican Party ("The Party of Jefferson") and the Federalist Party in the 1790's, with the Democratic-Republicans gaining in prominence with the collapse of the Federalists after the 1800 elections. In 1824, the Democratic-Republican Party splintered into the Democratic Party and the Whig Party. The Whig Party collapsed in the mid-1850's leading to the Republican Party.
It should be noted that up until this point no party took a strong position on slavery and were divided on the issue. The exception was the Republican Party, which, unlike its Whig predecessor, it was strongly anti-slavery since it had formed as that issue was starting to boil over. I'm not sure of what percentage of the South had been Whig, but it would make sense that not many Southern Whigs would have joined the new Republican Party.
That would have left the Civil War South primarily Democratic leading into and through the Civil War. Then since Reconstruction was being imposed on the South by the Republicans (and hence would be seen as an invading tyranny), the Republicans were unable to recruit many new party members in the South until the mid-20th Century and beyond (ie, that black hole in your sense of history).
Lincoln got Reconstruction started, but his predecessor, Andrew Johnson, did not want to support it but rather applied his own weaker version (which I seem to recall was part of the reason for his impeachment). Johnson had been a Democrat, but he remained loyal to the Union so Lincoln chose him as his running mate in the 1864 election as a unifying gesture (Johnson did not rejoin the Democrats). It was under Johnson, officially a Republican administration, that the South started passing Black Codes (though the "Jim Crow" era didn't actually start until Republican Rutherford Hayes' election).
Johnson was succeeded by Republican Ulysses S. Grant who tried to get Lincoln's Reconstruction plans back on track. He served two terms and was succeeded in 1866 by Republican Republican Rutherford Hayes who came to office through a coalition-deal with Southern Democrats to end Reconstruction, which he did.
So it was the Republicans who were responsible for stopping Reconstruction prematurely and for turning their backs on the situation of the blacks in the South. And blacks moving north also faced discrimination and violence from Republicans as well as Democrats. Indeed, as the Second Klan spread north and west, its membership included Republicans.
A lot happened over the next several decades in which the Democratic Party developed into basically two factions: a liberal party in the North concerned with people's rights and welfare and economic opportunities and the hide-bound Southern party (AKA "Dixie-crats"). Under FDR (in large part through through the influence of Eleanor Roosevelt) racial equality came more to the forefront.
But the breaking point was LBJ's Civil Rights Act (1964) and Voting Rights Act (1965) which made the Dixie-crats feel that the party had betrayed and abandoned them. From this and the 1950's/60's desegregation orders and the elimination of "Jim Crow" laws (primarily by federal-level Democrats and the civil rights movement, the GOP developed its Southern Strategy by consciously appealing to many white Southerners' racial grievances in order to gain their support, basically offering them in the GOP a new home for racists. Which is what the GOP has become (so they kept their promise with the Devil).
Of course, there was also Reagan who pulled in the "Radical Religions Right" whose head, Jerry Falwell, had triggered the big anti-abortion drive in order to build up a political block to fight school desegregation -- before then, fundamentalists had not taken any position on abortion because "well, that's a Catholic issue, not ours!" That is what brought the Christian Nationalists into the GOP, though under the name of the RRR's political mentors, the Christian Reconstructionists.
So regardless of how these evils had originated, the chickens have all come to roost in their current home, The GQP.
If you consider those things to be so evil that you will blame others for them, then why are you not ashamed of being the present home and promoter of those same evils?
They are also responsible for lynchings; poll taxes; the
KKK; the re-emergence of the KKK; lynchings: ...
Yes, the death threats and acts of violence to terrorize the population into compliance. That is what Republicans are doing.
Do you agree that those acts of terrorism are evil?
"poll taxes", AKA voter suppression. Who's doing that now? Republicans! Democrats are trying to ensure that all franchised voters, everybody who qualifies to vote, is able to. Republicans don't want to allow us to vote. Furthermore, they are actively making laws to allow state legislatures to override the outcome of the votes while running key state candidates who will rig the elections for the Republicans. Why? Because what the Republicans propose is so unpopular with the voters that the only way they can win is by cheating.
Do you agree that voter suppression is evil?
The KKK (and its reemergence). White supremacy. The first and third resurgences were largely based on race, but the second one that really caught national attention also promoted hatred of Jews and Catholics. It's now solidly Republican.
Do you agree that racism and white supremacist terrorism are evil?
Really? Because you don't look very convinced that they are evil.
You are going to feel like a total fool before long.
I guarantee it.
Nope. And you do know why? Because I do not fall for the stupid bullshit that you do.
Every time you post anything here, you post so many stupid bullshit lies that it takes several replies to respond properly.
And, oh, I will respond.
 
BTW, still no actual "problems with radiocarbon dating"?
Why am I not surprised?

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Message 790 of 1864 (900958)
11-02-2022 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 789 by ringo
11-02-2022 9:57 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
Then why did Trump resurrect the pipeline to bring more oil from Canada?
In order to export that oil to the rest of the world, but not to the USA.
Nu? (of course he doesn't know any Yiddish. He is clearly not a Mensch (ie, a human)
)

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Message 796 of 1864 (901035)
11-04-2022 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 769 by candle2
11-01-2022 12:44 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
Taq, make a list of all the racist Democrats who left the
Party after passage of the CRA and the became
Republicans.
Are you demanding he does that while he is standing on one foot? Or while you are standing on one foot?
That comes from that famous story (even appeared on Star Trek in "Dagger of the Mind") of the asshole Gentile who around 20 BCE went around trolling all the rabbinic schools demanding that the head rabbi recite the entire Torah from memory while he stood on one foot (I recently learned that it was the goy to stand on one foot, not the rabbi). The Pharisee head rabbi, Hillel, responded with a typical Pharisee teaching: "What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn." That's right, the Golden Rule that Jesus purportedly taught half a century later is Pharisee!
 
You are employing that typical creationist/fundie crap of demanding one to perform an intractable task (ie, theoretically possible, but so dauntingly immense a task as to be virtually impossible). Your only purpose in that is to try to silence your opponent. Extremely dishonest, but then what else could we expect from a creationist and a "true Christian". And now also a MAGAt.
In order to meet your demand, one would need to have complete access to voter registration information in all states. I certainly do not have that access and I very much doubt that Taq does either. Nor anybody else on this forum, including you!
You are seriously trying to claim that nobody changed party affiliation? Really? How could you possibly be serious? I know we shouldn't say such things, but there's just no way around it: that has to be one of the stupidest things you've said.
Instead, we could search for historical data regarding the party affiliations of the population of a particular state and translate those numbers into percentages (ie, divide the number of registered Democrats divided by total population (though it would be better to instead use the total number of citizens registered to vote, a more difficult number to find I would assume)).
Of course, finding that data would still be a sizeable project and, given your record here, one that would be a waste of time. So here's an alternative that should be instructive. Let's look at one state, Alabama (Political party strength in Alabama). Number of members for each party over time is not given, but rather the party affiliation of elected officials from 1817 to 2022. That party affiliation should be indicative the voters' party affiliation.
They started with Democratic Republicans, which then split into Democrats and Whigs around 1819, so from then through the Civil War it was mainly Democrats with Whigs and a smattering of small parties (eg, Southern Democratic, Southern Rights).
After the Civil War, some Democratic officials remained, but then starting in 1868 it was mainly Republicans with a smattering of Democrats. Remember that this was during Reconstruction where, as I recall, many Democratic leaders were undoubtedly ineligible as per the 14th Amendment (which we hopefully will see used again to deal with the seditionist traitors).
But then in 1875 as Reconstruction was being brought to a premature end, only Democrats were being voted into office and no Republicans. For the next 89 years until 1964, which does coincide with LBJ's Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act.
The new pattern for the next 20 years was that state officials and members of Congress would be Democrats, but the electors would mainly vote for Republicans or the like:
  • 1964 -- Goldwater/Miller
  • 1968 -- Wallace/LeMay
  • 1972 -- Nixon/Agnew
  • 1976 -- Carter/Mondale (mainly because he was a Southerner and a born-again Christian (one of the very few actual Christians of that breed that I know of) )
  • 1980 -- Reagan/Bush
  • 1984 -- Reagan/Bush
  • 1988 -- Bush/Quayle
  • 1992 -- Bush/Quayle
  • 1996 -- Dole/Kemp
  • 2000 -- Bush/Cheney
  • 2004 -- Bush/Cheney
  • 2008 -- McCain/Palin
  • 2012 -- Romney/Ryan
  • 2016 -- Trump/Pence
  • 2020 -- Trump/Pence
So from that point on, Alabama voted for every Republican presidential candidate with just a couple exceptions: Dixiecrat George Wallace and southern Democrat Jimmy Carter (most definitely not a Dixiecrat). That part of the southern shift to the GOP was solidly in place.
The rest of the ticket was still solidly Democrat, but most of those candidates were no longer part of the Democratic mainstream, but rather remnants of the older Dixiecrat party. But in 1987, 1989, and 1990, a Republican governor and two Republican Secretary of States were elected, along with a Republican senator in 1981. 1995 saw more offices going to Republicans. For the next 16 years more and more offices were going to Republicans such that in and after 2011 all offices have been held by Republicans, with the sole exception of US Senator Doug Jones elected in 2017 to fill the vacancy of Jeff Sessions who left the Senate to be Attorney General for Trump.
In all this we do see a process of the historically racist Democrats separating from the rest of the Democrat Party and transitioning over to being Republicans, taking their racism with them making the GOP more racist and the Democratic Party less racist.

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Message 810 of 1864 (901109)
11-04-2022 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 798 by candle2
11-04-2022 9:42 AM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
And, the past behavior of Democrats is really, really nasty.
The key word you said there but did not hear is PAST.
The PRESENT behavior of Democrats is completely different, but that past bad behavior is still being practiced ... by REPUBLICANS.
I gone over this with you several times already; eg in Message 760, Message 766, Message 796 .
The primary reason is that the evil Democrats of the past have left the party because there is no place for them here. Where did they go? To the Republican party which welcomed them with open arms.
The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.
Which is why we know what those evil racists now in the Republican party will do. And what they have been doing and are now doing.
But at the same time, the GOP is losing its conservatives who are fleeing the party in disgust over you MAGAts taking control of the party. There is no longer a home for conservatives in the GQP.
Where will they go? I've heard talk that they would form a new conservative party. Many have taken to supporting Democrats in this election; eg, arch-conservative Liz Cheney. Most likely for the time being they will just join the ranks of the independents; from the Wikipedia article, Political party strength in U.S. states:
quote:
Voter Registration Totals
Democratic .......... 48,019,985
Republican ........... 35,732,180
Independent ........ 34,699,567
And that same article repeats what we've been telling you over and over again:
quote:
Throughout most of the 20th century, although the Republican and Democratic parties alternated in power at a national level, some states were so overwhelmingly dominated by one party that nomination was usually tantamount to election. This was especially true in the Solid South, where the Democratic Party was dominant for the better part of a century, from the end of Reconstruction in the late 1870s, through the period of Jim Crow Laws into the 1960s. Conversely, the New England states of Vermont, Maine, and New Hampshire were dominated by the Republican Party, as were some Midwestern states like Iowa and North Dakota.
However, in the 1970s and 1980s the increasingly conservative Republican Party gradually overtook the Democrats in the southeast. The Democrats' support in the formerly Solid South had been eroded during the vast cultural, political and economic upheaval that surrounded the 1960s. By the 1990s, the Republican Party had completed the transition into the southeast's dominant political party, despite typically having fewer members due to the prevalence of Republican voting generational Democrats. In New England, the opposite trend occurred; the former Republican strongholds of Maine and Vermont became solidly Democratic, as did formerly Republican areas of New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut.

New tshirt:
DEMOCRAT
Democrats are not perfect, but those other guys are NUTS!

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Message 811 of 1864 (901113)
11-04-2022 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 787 by candle2
11-02-2022 5:38 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
The very first day Biden was in office he stopped the
pipeline from transporting oil, even though trucking it
would be two to three times more costly.
Uh, sorry, I'm just a retired engineer who has always thought like an engineer, but.. well, things being done have to be done for some purpose, right? I mean, it's not like some hazy hand-waving BS that nobody ever wants to specify in any manner. I'm a retired Chief Petty Officer which means that I live for training and training opportunities. I'm also a retired engineer which means that I live for specifications and results.
So then please answer those very basic questions: where does/did that pipeline originate, where does/did it go to, and for what purpose?
My understanding is that all that pipeline was for was to transport Canadian oil to US ports for export outside of the US.
IOW, none of that Canadian oil had anything to do with the oil market in US economincs.
Do you know otherwise?
The cost of food and others necessities increased at or
near the same rate.
Only in the US?
No, of course not! The entire world economy has been hit with inflation and is trying to deal with it.
We are doing a lot better than many other countries. Thanks to Biden!
Oh, and what would have happened with a Republican administration? Well, the Republican members of Congress all voted against any and all measures to deal with inflation. So under a Republican administration we would be far worse off.
For that matter, the closest thing Republicans have to an economic plan is the same one that former Prime Minister Liz Truss tried. The reason why she's a former PM (and with the shortest time in office) is because her economic policy blew up the British economy. Yeah, that failed economic plan is what the Republicans want to use against our economy.
Remember:
  • Republicans have no plan for dealing with inflation.
  • Republicans persistently vote against any and all efforts to deal with inflation.
  • Republicans persistently vote against any and all efforts to improve the financial situation of Americans (eg, lowering the cost of prescriptions, capping the amount seniors have to pay for medication, capping the cost of insulin to $35 as opposed to making it so expensive that diabetics have to choose between food or rent or the only medication that can keep them from dying).
  • The Republican economic plan is identical to the exact-same failed plan that Liz Truss used to blow up the British economy.
Taq, I am 69 years old, ...
Are you on Social Security and/or Medicare? The Republicans want to get rid of it. GOP leadership in Congress have stated that they want to change how we fund it so that its funding has to be renewed every five years, but Ron Johnson (Senate spokesman for Russian disinformation) wants that to be done every year, thus setting up those programs' demise.
McCarthy has presented his plan to reduce benefits in both programs and promises to destroy the US economy in order to get that. How? By refusing to raise the debt limit which would result in the government defaulting on paying its debt which would result in destroying the US' credit rating.

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Message 835 of 1864 (901579)
11-11-2022 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 831 by candle2
11-11-2022 3:45 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big
I have been looking into this for several decades.
At any time in all those "several decades" that you've been "looking into this", had it never ever occurred to you to look at a map?
A cardinal rule in doing research is verify, verify, verify! If you had ever bothered to even try to verify your "findings", then you would not have made such utterly stupid assertions.
The location of Mt. Sinai is in Saudi Arabia.
Wrong! The location of Mt. Sinai is towards the tip of the Sinai Peninsula, which is located between the Suez Gulf to the west and the Gulf of Aquaba to the east. The Sinai Peninsula is in Egypt (though occupied by Israel from 1967 to 1982), not in Saudi Arabia which is east of the Gulf of Aquaba.
Look at a map!
Tangle, the Israelites crossed the Red Sea at the Gulf of
Aquaba.

The exact sight is at Nuweiba Beach.
Fire up Google Earth and look! Nuweiba Beach is at 28°58'52"N 34°41'08"E . Move your mouse cursor over the gulf at that "crossing" and you will see that the depth of the gulf at that point is more than 2000 feet DEEP!
Really? You never checked that out?
Also, why there? Why would the escape route of the Israelites take such an enormous detour? To the west of that terrain is mountains more than 1000 feet high. On the other side of the gulf to the east that terrain is also mountainous rising to over 2000 feet. What overland route did they and the Egyptian army with their war chariots take to get there in the first place?
What you propose is not only obviously false, but also completely insane.
I would advise everyone to watch the videos and read
the articles about Nuweiba Beach and the Red Sea
Crossing.
What videos? What articles? I cannot find where you ever presented link to any such "sources".
But rather, you need to view and read them, take copious notes, and verify each and every claim that they make!
That verification procedure will require you to look at the maps. Topographical maps which include the depth of the water in the gulf.
Until you do that, then all we can say is "Fuck your stupid videos and articles! THEY ARE LYING TO YOU!"

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Message 839 of 1864 (901585)
11-12-2022 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 838 by candle2
11-12-2022 6:00 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big
Paulk, I have had problems accessing the site the past
couple of days. I don't know why.
I couldn't access the site for a couple hours this morning. Couldn't even ping it. So it looks like the site has been down.
{ usual nonsense }
NASA, huh? Is that the same NASA lab that in the mid-60's used a lunar orbit prediction program that discovered and confirmed Joshua's Long Day?
Do follow that link, BTW.

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Message 869 of 1864 (902042)
11-16-2022 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 868 by candle2
11-16-2022 7:37 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big
Well, I personally am glad that candle2 is wasting all his time on utterly worthless religious nonsense instead of trying to destroy science education.
Besides, watching utterly stupid religious blatherings does have some entertainment value.

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Message 908 of 1864 (902349)
11-21-2022 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 907 by Theodoric
11-21-2022 8:03 PM


Re: Let's start simple
And your point is?
Oh, yeah, that candle2's sources are lying out of their asses.
 
But he's a creationist quoting creationists.
Oh yeah, they're all lying out of their asses.
It's what creationists do all the time, after all.

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Message 933 of 1864 (903023)
11-30-2022 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 932 by nwr
11-30-2022 10:06 AM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
That's a false accusation. You are violating your commandment about bearing false witness.
You forget that candle2 has turned his back on the Christian god and now worships the Orange Calf. That means that he now follows Trump's Commandments (this list from Commentary: On Whining And Winning, Donald Trump's Ten Commandments):

  1. Honour Thy Money And Fame By Trumpeting Thy Successes
  2. Thou Shalt Not Speak Above A Fourth-Grade Vocabulary
  3. Thou Shalt Make Promises So Huuuuge And Vague People Cannot Doubt Thy Boldness
  4. Thou Shalt Never Apologize; But When Expedient, Just Explain That Offensive Remarks Were Misunderstood
  5. Thou Shalt Worship Repetition, For It Is The Essence Of Branding
  6. Thou Shalt Exalt Personality Over Principle And Policy
  7. Thou Shalt Respect Power Of Insults For They Shall Slay Your Enemies, Entertain The Masses
  8. Thou Shalt Never Pass Up Opportunity To Attack A Media Doubter For They Shall Be Intimidated
  9. Honour Thy Trolling And Tweeting To Know The Sweet Joy Of Mocking The Meek
  10. Remember The Days Of Whining Lead To Winning

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Message 967 of 1864 (903579)
12-13-2022 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 966 by ringo
12-13-2022 11:16 AM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
If you had read my post (and feel free to check out the facts) you SHOULD have learned that Canada is also good for accepting refugees from American tyranny.
And as a safe refuge for science.
After Putin got Trump electoraled into office (he did lose the popular vote by three million) and before his inauguration, US scientists went into damage control mode.
With incredibly accurate foresight, they anticipated that their research would disappear under Trump, so they started backing up everything they could overseas. Which I read as "a lot of it going to Canada" for safe keeping. And sure enough, data started disappearing, especially on government websites (at one point, the entire judicial branch disappeared).

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Message 971 of 1864 (904933)
01-12-2023 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 968 by candle2
01-11-2023 11:34 AM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
Wow, you really are a stupid asshole. What do you keep your head shoved into that you are so clueless of ... everything?
Anyone who thinks that Putin had the power and skill
to put Trump into office should have a mental evaluation.
What an idiot you are! Putin certainly does have the power, being the totalitarian dictator of an oligarchy in which he's the richest oligarch (reference Bruce Wayne's line: "What's your superpower again?" "I'm very wealthy"). He doesn't need to have those skills himself (Are you really so stupid that you have no inkling at all how anything works? ), but rather he has minions and agencies (eg, FSB (formerly KGB), GRU) and troll farms working for him to provide the technical expertise as well as doing the actual work of disrupting elections (not just ours, but also those of NATO members as well as in Russia). His goal is to weaken the West by disrupting its governments.
Putin definitely wanted Trump in office and Trump did his best to please Putin in every way he could. Such as weakening US national security and disrupting and weakening NATO -- it's a tribute to Biden's abilities that he was able to reunite NATO after the number that Trump did on it. Also weakening Ukraine (Obama had put measures into place to strengthen NATO and Ukraine, all of which Trump got rid of, or at least tried to). Trumpisti claim that there wouldn't be a war in Ukraine if Trump had been reelected, which is only true because Trump would have just given the country to Putin, wrapped in a ribbon and a bow.
And Putin's assets did indeed interfere extensively with the 2016 election in an effort to install Trump, the "Kremlin Candidate". This is also evidenced by the massive collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, including Paul Manafort giving the Russians polling data that they needed to know where and how to target swing states. That is all detailed in the Mueller Report.
Cannota is welcome to all of our illegal immigrants.
What the fuck are you talking about? Who the fuck is that?
Are you using your stupid little inadequate phone again? When you do, you should at least turn off its auto-corrupt feature. But far better, stop being an idiot and use your computer.
Jessica H. Christ! What is wrong with you?
They can have the enormous strain that II place on our
school and medical systems.
You really are totally clueless!
Actual examination and comparison of what illegal immigrants' contributions and burden to states show that their contributions far outweigh any burdens. We discussed it before you got here. Here are some links with that information:
For example:
  • They work, which contributes to the economy. Right now with inflation being brought under control (the entire world is suffering from inflation, but thanks to Biden's leadership we are doing far better than many other countries) and the jobless rate being the lowest it's been in the past 50 years, our economy is booming but we have more jobs available and not enough workers. Immigrants can fill those empty jobs, especially the ones that Americans refuse to fill (as we learned the hard way in 1964 with the A-TEAM ).
  • When people work, even immigrants, they spend money in the community. They pay rent. They buy things in stores, like food and clothing, which provides income for those stores who can then hire workers.
    There was a one-business town in Ohio, a meatpacking plant that was staffed primarily by illegal immigrants. They were a part of the community which thrived ... until ICE rounded up the immigrants and the plant lost its most valuable employees. The local whites (who typically complained about immigrants taking their jobs) did not lift one finger to take up those jobs, the plant had to close until it could find workers, and the town's economy crashed. Finally, they were able to bring in Syrian refugees to start up the plant again and the town started to slowly recover.
  • Illegal immigrants are not eligible for most government benefits. And if you want to talk about them putting a strain on the medical system, the local citizens are already doing that in most parts of the country, especially in red states where the dumb-fuck Republicans ensure that nobody has medical coverage (which is also why hospitals in rural America close down at such a high rate).
  • Illegal immigrants do indeed pay taxes. When they buy something, they pay sales tax just like everybody else. When they pay their rent, they pay property tax (indirectly through the landlord) just like everybody else who rents. When they buy gasoline, they pay that tax too just like everybody else who buys gas.
    And if they obtain a fake social security number (like the illegals that Trump has working for him at his resorts), then they also pay withholding for federal and state income tax as well as payroll taxes (eg, FICA) for social security and medicare. Note that they can never ever get any income tax withholding returned to them and they can never draw social security or medicare, so the government gets those taxes free of any burden.
I just heard that Canada is also suffering from a labor shortage like we are, so they've posted ads in the US telling our illegals to come to Canada to find work. So Canada's economy can grow and prosper while ours is being held back yet again by the dumb-fuck Republicans intent on screwing us over yet again.
 
So just what the fuck are you talking about?
 
Also, why haven't you contributed to the Radiocarbon Dating topic, Radiocarbon Dating Discussion with candle2?
Are you conceding that you were completely wrong?

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