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Dredge
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Message 842 of 1429 (899166)
10-09-2022 4:36 PM
Reply to: Message 834 by xongsmith
10-09-2022 1:40 AM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
xongsmith writes:
could provide additional structural strength, making it easier to puncture the increasingly tougher skins of their prey.
Why would the snake need these stronger fangs when it was surviving with the fangs it already had?

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Dredge
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Message 843 of 1429 (899167)
10-09-2022 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 834 by xongsmith
10-09-2022 1:40 AM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
Dredge writes:
... ... and it was pure luck that some snakes were born with their venom glands connected to their hollow fangs!
xongsmith writes:
BY GEORGE, I THINK HE'S GOT IT!!!!
Wait ... let me get this straight ... your explanation for how a snake's venom glands came to be connected to their hollow fangs is that some lucky snake just happened to be born that way?
So that lucky snake's parents lacked any connection between gland and fangs and then ... poof! ... said lucky snake was born with it all magically connected up?
If so ... wow ... that gives the story of the Tooth Fairy a whole new dimension.

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Dredge
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Message 846 of 1429 (899173)
10-09-2022 5:53 PM
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10-09-2022 5:43 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Dredge
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Message 847 of 1429 (899174)
10-09-2022 5:55 PM
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10-09-2022 5:29 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
How can you call me a friend when you don't support me?

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Dredge
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Message 851 of 1429 (899178)
10-09-2022 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 849 by dwise1
10-09-2022 5:59 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
Found any whales with a fused sacrum yet? LOL!

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Dredge
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Message 855 of 1429 (899182)
10-09-2022 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 852 by xongsmith
10-09-2022 6:07 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
Your fairy tales are getting funnier and funnier ... the snake had to evolve tougher fangs coz its prey was evolving tougher skin? I love it!
Why then didn't the snake simply choose prey with softer skin?
Incidentally, I never asked about how a snake evolved stronger fangs ... my query was about the evolution of hollow fangs.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
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Message 856 of 1429 (899183)
10-09-2022 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 850 by xongsmith
10-09-2022 6:05 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
xongsmith writes:
this means that when you wonder how a tooth could ever get hollow, you are showing that you are not really understanding BILLIONS of years.
So your best scientific explanation for how a venomous snake came to have hollow fangs is ... wait for it (drum roll) ... "billions of years done it"?

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Dredge
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Message 864 of 1429 (899197)
10-10-2022 12:54 AM
Reply to: Message 792 by Stile
08-31-2022 8:33 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
792/53
Stile writes:
Understanding how viruses evolve and how they affect humans and other species (due to UCD) leads to knowledge that guides us into efficiently creating vaccines and medicines.
No one needs the theory of UCD to understand how viruses evolve and how they affect humans and other species.
Dredge writes:
A change in allele frequency within a population is explained by mechanisms such as natural, artificial and sexual selection, mutations, genetic drift, recombination.
Stile writes:
Exactly: UCD.
What crap. No scientific publication would describe the mechanisms of evolution as UCD, or vise-versa. And the theory of UCD can be defined without even mentioning the mechanisms of evolution.
The mechanisms of evolution are indepedent from the theory of UCD ... the former exist regardless of the latter.
You don't need the theory of UCD to understand and utilize the mechanisms of evolution.
Medicine utilizes facts such the mechanisms of evolution, but medicine has no use for the theory of UCA.

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Dredge
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Message 866 of 1429 (899199)
10-10-2022 2:53 AM
Reply to: Message 865 by dwise1
10-10-2022 1:15 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Ol' misery guts.

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Dredge
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Message 867 of 1429 (899200)
10-10-2022 6:47 AM
Reply to: Message 865 by dwise1
10-10-2022 1:15 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
I have considered your comments with an open and unprejudiced mind. My conclusion is that I have deemed them devoid of merit.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
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Message 872 of 1429 (899214)
10-10-2022 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 869 by ringo
10-10-2022 12:22 PM


Re: Dredge tries with Re: what did it?
ringo writes:
The prey animals with thicker skin had a better chance of survival, so thicker skin became prevalent. The thin-skinned prey may well have become extinct because of snake predation.

Similarly, the snakes with stronger fangs had a larger food supply (thin-skinned AND thick-skinned), which increased their chances of survival.
.... and then, children, something truly wonderful happened ... the Tooth Fairy came along, waved her magic wand and ... poof! ... all of a sudden the snake had hollow fangs!
You really shouldn't be laughing at ideas that are easy to explain.
You haven't explained anything ... all you and xongsmith have done is make up fanciful stories plucked out of thin air. None of your fairy tales can be tested and are therefore worthless as science.
But such is the wont of Darwinists ... they don't know what happened, so they invent imaginative bed-time stories and then delude themselves that their fables have got something to do with reality.
.

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Dredge
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Message 874 of 1429 (899217)
10-10-2022 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 871 by ringo
10-10-2022 12:29 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
ringo writes:
You left out "empty". You keep forgetting that you're a self-confessed idiot.
I was hoping you wouldn't mention the fact that I am, without any doubt at all , an idiot.

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Dredge
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Message 875 of 1429 (899219)
10-10-2022 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 873 by xongsmith
10-10-2022 4:48 PM


Re: google confirms my guess
873
xongsmith writes:
wow, , i was right!
and i was just making a WAGNER - a Wild-Assed Guess Not Easily Refuted
No, you weren't right ... you just happened to dream up a fairy tale bearing a slight resemblance to the fairy tale dreamed up in the article provided by Tangle.
To wit:
Snakes evolved venom fangs multiple times from wrinkles in their teeth | New Scientist
And unlike said article, you made no attempt to explain the evolution of hollow fangs ... you simply attempted to explain stronger fangs.
Incidentally, it never ceases to amaze me how credulous Darwinists are. Take said article, for example: Some space-cadet Darwinist scientists at a university concoct a weak, simplistic, far-fetched, untestable story about how hollow snake fangs might have evolved, and suddenly it's accepted as an established scientific fact by those gullible little children out there in Darwin World ... like you and Tangle.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
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Message 877 of 1429 (899229)
10-10-2022 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 876 by xongsmith
10-10-2022 8:54 PM


Re: google confirms my guess
xongsmith writes:
start with a little groove on the inside of a tooth, then some are born with deeper grooves that are favored in that current environment. they survive at a more frequent rate and eventually are the major variant. then the deeper groove begins to fold together
In your Darwinist fantasy-world, what makes the deeper groove begin to "fold together"?

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 882 of 1429 (899300)
10-11-2022 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 870 by Tangle
10-10-2022 12:25 PM


It never ceases to amaze me how credulous Darwinists are. Take the article you've offered here, for example: Some space-cadet Darwinist scientists at a university concoct a weak, simplistic, far-fetched, untestable story about how hollow snake fangs might have evolved, and suddenly it's accepted as an established scientific fact by all those gullible little children out there in Darwin World. Embarrassing.

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