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Dredge
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Message 1223 of 1429 (903240)
12-07-2022 12:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1120 by ringo
11-21-2022 11:24 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Why do you need to believe that all life shares a common ancestor to examine and compare the DNA of humans and other animals?
ringoat writes:
Why don't science deniers like creationists and flat-earthers produce any scientific breakthroughs? It seems that accepting the science HELPS.
You didn't answer my question.
ringoat writes:
Why don't science deniers like creationists and flat-earthers produce any scientific breakthroughs?
The greatest scientist in history - Isaac Newton - was a creationist. LOL!!

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
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Message 1224 of 1429 (903241)
12-07-2022 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1123 by Taq
11-22-2022 10:43 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Why do you need to believe that all life shares a common ancestor to examine and compare the DNA of humans and other animals?
Taq writes:
A perfect example of why creationism is a science stopper. All Dredge thinks one should do is just measure stuff.
Explain it? OH NOOOOO, CAN'T DO THAT!!! Apply the scientific method? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
Your comment, although entertaining, didn't answer my question.

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Dredge
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Message 1228 of 1429 (903245)
12-07-2022 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1227 by dwise1
12-07-2022 1:11 AM


Re: UCD evidence
dwise1 writes:
You are lying by dithering with the meanings of words.
I didn't know that, so thank you for informing me that I was lying.
Kepler most certainly did practice astrology
It's amazing that someone as intelligent and scientific as Kepler would see fit to believe in a superstition such as astrology.
But then again, should anyone be surprised? I mean, most scientists today see fit to believe in the superstition of Darwinism. This superstition includes the hilarious belief that humans and potatoes, for example, evolved from the same organism. I kid you not ... that's what Darwinoids actually believe!!
It turns out that scientists - despite their intelligence, knowledge and devotion to methodological naturalism - can be just as stupidly superstitious as anyone else. The human mind is certainly a curious thing.
your anti-science idiocy
I didn't know that I'm "anti-science".
What a complete fucking idiot you are! 
I know that.

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Dredge
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Message 1239 of 1429 (903263)
12-07-2022 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1133 by FLRW
11-23-2022 12:59 PM


FLRW writes:
several researchers have proposed that early life was characterized by rampant horizontal gene transfer
Those researchers wouldn't know ... they're just guessing. Their proposal can't be tested and is therefore worthless as science. No one can ever know what process produced the history of life on earth.

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Dredge
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Message 1244 of 1429 (903282)
12-07-2022 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1240 by Taq
12-07-2022 1:25 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Taq writes:
If you pick any two species you can trace their family tree back until you arrive at that shared ancestor.
Hilarious. It's amazing how many people believe that Darwinoid superstition ... an atheist fairy tale foisted on the gullible masses by atheist scientists.

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Dredge
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From: Australia
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Message 1247 of 1429 (903286)
12-07-2022 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1246 by Theodoric
12-07-2022 9:36 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Theodorkic writes:
You can't just make claims you need evidence to support those claims.
The Cambrian Explosion alone makes a mockery of the superstition of UCD. But Darwinoid scientists dismiss that inconvenient truth bcoz it doesn't fit their preferred myth.
When dishonesty enters science you know it ain't science anymore, but lying propaganda invented by con-men.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1249 of 1429 (903288)
12-08-2022 1:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1248 by xongsmith
12-07-2022 11:41 PM


Re: UCD evidence
wrongsmith writes:
The rate of speciation from whichever set of organisms are present at a particular time from the UCD can vary all over the place and has.
You Darwinoids just make crap up as you go along. Such con-men.

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Dredge
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Message 1257 of 1429 (903371)
12-08-2022 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1241 by Taq
12-07-2022 1:26 PM


Taq writes:
It can be tested by measuring phylogenetic signal in shared DNA sequences. 
Anyone who thinks they know how "early life" evolved Message 1133 is delusional ... or worse.
Darwinoid scientists are amongst the most egregious bs-artists and con-men on the planet.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1259 of 1429 (903417)
12-10-2022 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1138 by AZPaul3
11-23-2022 6:19 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
I want to know how the theory of UCD has made a practical contribution to medical or biological science.
APauling writes:
Then go comb the literature you lazy dumb shit. The answers are there.
You say the "answers are there", yet you can't provide even one example of how the theory of UCD has made a practical contribution to medical or biological science. That's APauling.
All you have to offer is a bare assertion. Therefore I've no other choice but to conclude that you're just one more mendacious Darwinist con-man. Sorry.
If you want to know why and how UCD informes evolution, medical science and biology ...
I've yet to find UCD informing medical science and operational biology of anything useful. I don't think UCD informs anyone of anything... it just a bedtime story invented by atheists.

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Dredge
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Message 1260 of 1429 (903418)
12-10-2022 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1140 by AZPaul3
11-23-2022 6:44 PM


Re: UCD Is Not The Issue.
What a rant. Forget to take your medication again?

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Dredge
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Message 1261 of 1429 (903419)
12-10-2022 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1150 by Theodoric
11-25-2022 10:59 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Theodorkic writes:
Why  would a scientific paper say such a thing?
Exactly! Why would a scientific paper say Covid vaccines work bcoz of UCD?
It's physical realities that make vaccines work, not an idiotic story about how humans and potatoes evolved from the same organism.

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Dredge
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Message 1262 of 1429 (903420)
12-10-2022 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1151 by Theodoric
11-25-2022 11:00 AM


Re: Evidence be damned
What?

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1263 of 1429 (903421)
12-10-2022 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1152 by ringo
11-25-2022 11:22 AM


Re: UCD evidence
This is a joke, right? No one could be this dumb.

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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
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Message 1268 of 1429 (903471)
12-10-2022 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1267 by ringo
12-10-2022 12:04 PM


Re: UCD evidence
ringoat writes:
Explain what is funny and/or dumb about what I said.
You think me asking for a practical use for UCD in medical science or applied biology is the same as asking for evidence of UCD itself Message 1152.
That's dumb ... they're nothing like the same thing.

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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days)
Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1270 of 1429 (903491)
12-11-2022 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1269 by ringo
12-11-2022 1:11 PM


Re: UCD evidence
WTF??? I'm beginning to understand why you flunked Elementary school ...

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