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Author Topic:   Examples of non-Christian Moral systems.
jar
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Message 267 of 296 (123821)
07-11-2004 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by mike the wiz
07-11-2004 7:56 PM


Re: Getting way off topic again.
But control of Lust is also common under even Atheistic moral systems.
You say unGodliness leads to it but Lust seems to be a pretty common characteristic.
The Buddha, Mencius and Confucius as well as the Tao all address Lust.

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Message 269 of 296 (123823)
07-11-2004 9:21 PM
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07-11-2004 9:14 PM


Re: Getting way off topic again.
Still getting off topic.
Can we get back towards it.
Do you have any indications that the other moral systems do not work as well as the Judaic?

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Message 272 of 296 (123842)
07-11-2004 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Hangdawg13
07-11-2004 11:11 PM


Well let's look for a second at what Confucius says about Lust.
Confucius said, "There are three things which the superior man guards against. In youth, when the physical powers are not yet settled, he guards against lust. When he is strong and the physical powers are full of vigor, he guards against quarrelsomeness. When he is old, and the animal powers are decayed, he guards against covetousness."

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Message 278 of 296 (123986)
07-12-2004 2:46 PM
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07-12-2004 2:29 PM


You found whatever's stash I see.

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Message 284 of 296 (124103)
07-12-2004 7:17 PM
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07-12-2004 7:02 PM


Keeps it interesting.

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Message 287 of 296 (128103)
07-27-2004 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by lfen
07-27-2004 1:59 PM


Re: Japanese Imperialism
I would certainly agree that much of the problems we face today can be laid directly at the door step of Imperialism, and France, Germany, Great Britian and Italy certainly need to be featured players. But we cannot exclude the US as well.
But there is a big difference between going to war, and the atrocities that were committed by the Japanese during the war.
The subject of this thread is on examples of Non-Christian Moral systems. Within that context, Shintoism is unique in the fact that it has as a basic tenet that there is no difference between good and evil.
So far we have not really addressed that issue. I had hoped that there might be some members more knowledgable about Shintoism. I must admit that I have always had a hard time reconciling the basic portions with those of any other moral system I am familar with.
As to Mr. Durant, he (and his wife) have been a major force in my belief system. Even if many do not read all of his works, it is worthwhile to at least read the articles he published over the years on Wisdom and in particular, History.

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jar
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Message 289 of 296 (128153)
07-27-2004 5:42 PM
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07-27-2004 5:35 PM


Re: Japanese Imperialism
Let me ask you to do this then for me. Just to get a perspective from other than my personal experience, can you set aside a little lime and take a look at Shinto in comparison to the other Eastern philosophies.
I know that is asking a lot, time being as limited as it is for all of us but it would help greatly to get at least one other perspective.
Also, I don't think you will find much influence in either Zen or Buddhism in the Samuri Class. That is more a modern rendition and insertion.

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