Examples of non-Christian Moral systems.

Why "non-christian" then? Why not "none-muslim" or "none-buddhist".If we have hi-jacked the topic, is probably because of attacks on us anyway. We are counter attacking.Go Ullrich!!!

Listen Jar, I'm sure there are many none-christian moral systems. And yes, I've heard good things about Budhism, from abbyleever...., but if someone takes this topic and turns it around onto the christians, then obviously I'm going to defend. However, I must wonder why it is that you promote none-christian ways. Christ, if anyone, cannot be beat on morals. To love ones enemy AND neighbour, would be to remove totally, all conflict in this world. THAT is what I promote. Why aren't you? Infact why do you seems to argue for atheistic type things?

Only cos Jan has never regained true 1997 form. As we seen his little power demonstration in the mountains last year, after he ripped Lance a new butthole in that time trial. Now this is off topic. I vote that I should be banned for 30 days.

It's just that you are a rarity to the forum. A christian who seems to preach secularist things. "None-christian"??? "No design"?? "Hitler was christian"(let's not even go there )Rather typically, and rather dissapointingly (to you)- I also think that there is only one moral way. All throughout the Old Testament it is shown that "oh if only thou hadst hearkened to my Commandments, then thy peace would have been as a river".Also, in the New Testament, it is told that unGodliness will lead to unGodly activity, and people are given over to their lusts.But if I am rejected/spanked for having this view, then so be it, I try to please God not men.

Lust leads to many things that are wrong. Adultery is one example. Rape is another. Being rich and loving money is another.

But unGodliness leads to it. Without God it will happen. Therefore, the unique aspect, is bringing it to God.

What I should have said, is what I first said; That unGodliness leads to being "given over" to lusts. You see, the world system is without God, and encourages fornications etc..So there might be other moral systems, but obviously these systems aren't going to be as good as God's.You are right about lust being common, but being "given over" to them is obviously the key here. As soon as we think we can go it alone we then start to be Godless, and think of ourselves as confident gods. These things are prophecisies in the NT. Do you think we can go it alone without God? You seem to encourage it.This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 07-11-2004 08:15 PM

Hey Dan, I'm sorry about my comments about people who act goons not being intelligent. I shouldn't have said that because that is not relevant to your character. Because you are always a goon .Whereas, these others are just partakers of the goondom for quantum nano- seconds during self-deluded states, in the realm of the phantom postage sector. But I mean that in a nice way cos actually you do make posting more fun, so my comments were unnecessary. As for SleepingDragon - there's no helping him out of his bum, and he now thinks that pooh smells nice, and beautiful odours are wrongful.Besides this we have been spanked for off topic rint rant. So hey what can I do? I feel we would never resolve the increasing and hard threatening manifold, bold old soul that transits our wormhole.

Be fair, you did call me an idiot. So stop milking my cow.

Now that's lust!!! A prime example of excess but no satisfaction. But what say ye about the time trial stage up Alpe D'huez?You can answer in my new topic, "Who will win the tour de France". Here; TourThis message has been edited by mike the wiz, 07-12-2004 02:28 PM