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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Spoken like a true atheist.
I wonder what evidence would satisfy someone who wants to never believe?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Ok let's keep it simple. It was implied the Jewish writings verify the JC dude. Start there.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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candle2 Member (Idle past 123 days) Posts: 892 Joined: |
Dwise 1, the Holy Roman Empire rises and falls. There
is to come one more resurrection of the HRE. After the death of Justinian, the HRE waned in power.It remained that way until Charlemagne came on the scene. After the death of Charlemagne the HRE once againexperienced the loss of much of its secular and religious power and influence. It stayed this way until Otto the Great came along.Otto was the third head (revival) of the same old secular/religious system. The countries of Germany, Spain, Italy, France, Austria,and several other countries of Western Europe are generally included in the realm of the HRE. But, all of them need not be part of the power structure in each and every head (revival). When most people think if the HRE they think of Rome.However, the main force behind the HRE has shifted to Germany. Starting with Charlemagne, Germany has been thesecular ruler in four of the six heads. Germany was the main instigators in the Franco-Prussian War; WW1; and, WW2. The beast and false prophet in Revelation 13 will bea secular German Ruler and the Pope. Germany and the nine other European countries unitedwith them will yield such enormous military and economic might that much of the world will follow their dictates. The Vatican is both a ecclesiastical entity, and a nationthat sends and receives ambassadors. No other secular and ecclesiastical combination inrecorded history, except the HRE, comes close to fitting The Biblical description of the beast and image of the beast. Sorry, I meant to say that there is no such connectionto Sunday.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Dwise 1, the Holy Roman Empire rises and falls. There is to come one more resurrection of the HRE. No, the Holy Roman Empire was a distinct political entity that existed JUST ONCE (as do all distinct political entities) in the period from about 800 CE to 6 August 1806.
Jessica H. Christ, man! Pull your head out and LEARN SOME HISTORY! Yet again, how could you ever expect to trust what you say when you talk about things that we cannot verify when everything you say that we CAN verify all turn out to be either wrong or downright false?
PS So still unable to present any of your "flaws of radiocarbon dating"? Why am I not surprised?
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ringo Member (Idle past 660 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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candle2 writes:
I think that ship sailed on May 8, 1945. A more obvious choice for the (entirely fictional) "beast" is a Reagan or a Trump. The beast and false prophet in Revelation 13 will bea secular German Ruler and the Pope. "Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Trump, obviously. Don't forget that Jared Kushner's NYC address was 666 5th Avenue.
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Porkncheese Member (Idle past 517 days) Posts: 198 From: Australia Joined: |
Jesus often spoke and prayed to God and referred to him as his father.
I know there is scripture that appears to suggest that Jesus is God but there is also scripture to suggest he isn't.Eg. Why would Jesus pray to himself in the garden of Gethsemane before getting arrested? "THIS IS MY SON"Twice in the Gospel we hear God himself say that Jesus is His son. Once when he gets baptized and once at the transfiguration He doesn't say that Jesus is God. 17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” John 20:17 How can anyone be sure that Jesus is God with such conflicting scripture?One theory is that this was done by the early church to appeal to the pagans to convert at the time because there was so many of them. Who knows but the concept of the trinity was created by the Catholic church and even they admit that the trinity is a mystery so trying to explain it or make sense of it is impossible anyway. How many Gods does Christianity have? It supposed to be monotheist but in many ways it isn't with the trinityAnd then you can throw in a 4th deity when you see Catholics worshiping Mary as well. Just some thoughtsGod Bless
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Porkncheese writes:
I never seen any Catholic worship Mary.
And then you can throw in a 4th deity when you see Catholics worshiping Mary as well.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
There is no god there was no Jesus.
Done.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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ringo Member (Idle past 660 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Porkncheese writes:
Bingo. The Bible contradicts itself. You should have learned that on page one. I know there is scripture that appears to suggest that Jesus is God but there is also scripture to suggest he isn't."Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo Member (Idle past 660 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
You've never heard any Catholic use the phrase, "Hail Mary"?
I never seen any Catholic worship Mary.quote:Sounds a bit worshipful to me. "Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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candle2 Member (Idle past 123 days) Posts: 892 Joined: |
Dwise 1, in Daniel 2, King Nebuchadnezzar had a dream
about a great image. Verse 32 "The image's head was of fine gold, his breastand his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass. 33. His legs of iron, and feet part of iron and part of clay. In verse 34, Daniel saw a great stone smite the imageupon his feet made of iron and clay, and broke them to pieces. In verse 38, Daniel tell King Nebuchadnezzar that he andhis Kingdom was the head of gold. His Kingdom was Babylon. The next Kingdom, represented by the breast and silverwas then followed by the third Kingdom represented by the belly and thight of brass. The second Kingdom turned out to be the Medes-persianEmpire. The third was the Greek Empire. Verse 40: "And the fourth Kingdom shall be strong asiron: formasmuch as iron breakest in pieces and subdues all things: and as iron that breaks all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise." Verse 41: "And whereas thou saw the feet and toes,part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, formasmuch as thou saw the iron mixed with Mary clay." Verse 42: "And as the toes of the feet were part of iron,and part of clay, so the Kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken." Verse 44: "And in the days of these kings (10) shall theGod of heaven set up a Kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: And the Kingdom shall not be left to other people, butit shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever." This fourth beast is the same as the fourth beast inDaniel 7:19-20. The ten toes of the image in chapter two are the sameas the ten horns (kings) on the 7th head of the beast in Revelation 13. It is clearly understood that the fourth beast inRevelation 2 is that of the Roman Empire. The clay mingled with the iron on the feet and toes ofthis beast is the RCC. It is the glue that holds the union together. Verse 44 in Daniel 2 tells us that this beast is extantwhen Christ returns and destroys it. The only way this fourth beast could still have suchenormous power and authority when Christ returns is If there is a revival of the HRE. The sixth and seventh heads of the beast are revivedafter you claim that the HRE died for good.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
I never seen any Catholic worship Mary. Cuz you keep your eyes closed when you do it. That's a requirement of catholic worship. Besides, you're a lying sack of meat-crackers. You have been punished by your confessors plenty having to recite 10 Hail Mary's for this or that transgression. And you're praying to Mary to intercede with god on your behalf. You pray to her in worship of her intercessory powers. You worship her like you do Saint Cunibert and Saint Nymphodora. Catholic is a polytheist religion.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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ringo Member (Idle past 660 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
That's a new one on me. It's my second favorite name now, after Cornucopia. Saint Nymphodora"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo Member (Idle past 660 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Did you memorize Hal Lindsey?
Here's another book you might like: Apocalypse Next. It's a virtual clone of The Late Great Planet Earth. Be sure to avoid this one: Apoclypse Not. The subtitle is "Everything You Know About 2012, Nostradamus and the Rapture Is Wrong"."Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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