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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Taq, isn't it also interesting that Conservatives took a hard
look at slavery and affirmed that it was a moral sin. The Conservatives did not own slaves; so, should they havestayed out of it, and allowed the issue to be determined by the slaves and their owners? Do you think that owning slaves is a far worse sin thanmurdering helpless little babies. Do you think that a man who is promiscuous andimpregnates a woman should be held accountable for his actions?
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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candle2 writes:
That is not true.
The Conservatives did not own slaves;quote: "Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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Taq Member Posts: 10073 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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candle2 writes:
Taq, isn't it also interesting that Conservatives took a hardlook at slavery and affirmed that it was a moral sin. That sounds entirely made up.
Do you think that owning slaves is a far worse sin than murdering helpless little babies. I think owning slaves is far worse than aborting a fetus.
Do you think that a man who is promiscuous and impregnates a woman should be held accountable for his actions? Such men are held accountable, and I support such laws and policies. Child support is a good idea. But it does take two to tango, as the old saying goes. Women aren't innocent victims (except in cases where consent is not given or is compromised).
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Ringo, you wrote should a twelve year old girl who is
raped be executed too. Are you retarded? I am serious. Are you retarded? I never said that anyone should be executed becausethey were raped. We don't even execute the rapist. Why would you thinkthat we should execute the woman who was raped, especially a 12 year old child? Less than one percent of abortions are performed inorder to save the mother's life. This particular situation is between the woman; herhusband, if she has one; and, God. In the case of rape, we do not even execute the rapist.Why would anyone recommend killing the baby, who did nothing wrong? Are there any murders of babies that you are against? Sometimes I get the feeling that you have poor readingskills. Tell me, if you can read, does Ephesians 3:8-10 mentionGod creating all things by Jesus Christ. If it does then stop saying that Jesus did not create allthings. But be honest.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Taq, you say that men who behave irresponsibility
should be held accountable for their actions. Why shouldn't a woman who is promiscuous be held tothe same standard? Also, tell me when a fetus inside a woman is not human. Check your history books. The Republican party did notexists before Lincoln. The Republican Party, took us back to the Constitution,that all men are created equal
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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candle2 writes:
We say "intellectually challenged" now. My brother used to coach a Special Olympics track team and he said that "we" should be more like "them". I've met a lot of the team members and I tend to agree.
Are you retarded? I am serious. Are you retarded? candle2 writes:
You seem to be in favor of executing women who have abortions. Are you or are you not? I never said that anyone should be executed becausethey were raped. And how is it different if the woman was raped? Is it not still "murder"?
candle2 writes:
Because she had an abortion, which you call "murder".
We don't even execute the rapist. Why would you thinkthat we should execute the woman who was raped, especially a 12 year old child? candle2 writes:
So what? If abortion is "murder", then she's a murderer, even if she had the abortion to save her life.
Less than one percent of abortions are performed inorder to save the mother's life. candle2 writes:
Why isn't EVERY situation between the woman, her husband, if she has one, and God? Why do you have to stick your nose in?
This particular situation is between the woman; herhusband, if she has one; and, God. candle2 writes:
I'm against all murders of babies. But abortion is not considered murder in any civilized society.
Are there any murders of babies that you are against? candle2 writes:
If I couldn't read, how do you think we got this far, genius?
Tell me, if you can read... candle2 writes:
It does. What has that got to do with abortion?
...does Ephesians 3:8-10 mentionGod creating all things by Jesus Christ. candle2 writes:
I am honest. Paul was wrong. If it does then stop saying that Jesus did not create allthings. But be honest. "Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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Taq Member Posts: 10073 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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candle2 writes: Taq, you say that men who behave irresponsibilityshould be held accountable for their actions. I think all people should be held accountable for being irresponsible, not just men. At the same time, accountability can mean many things. It can mean being held accountable by your family or friends. It can also mean being held accountable by a boss at work. It can also mean being held accountable by a court of law.
Why shouldn't a woman who is promiscuous be held to the same standard? Men and women should be held to the same standards.
Also, tell me when a fetus inside a woman is not human. It's a tough spectrum to define, but I don't think a fetus a couple of months old is human in the same way you and I are.
Check your history books. The Republican party did not exists before Lincoln. Conservatives and Republicans weren't synonyms at that point in history.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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candle2 writes:
Abraham Lincoln would weep if he saw the thugs in the Republican Party today. The Republican Party, took us back to the Constitution,that all men are created equal "Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: The hubris is strong in this one! I am honest. Paul was wrong. How about just a short list. Name 5 specific things that the Apostle Paul was wrong about."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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candle2 writes:
Abraham Lincoln would weep if he saw the thugs in the Republican Party today. The Republican Party, took us back to the Constitution,that all men are created equal Republicans still crow that they're "The Party of Lincoln", but they stopped being that about 145 years ago with Republican President Rutherford Hayes' election in 1876 in large part through support from the South in exchange for bringing Reconstruction to a premature end, thus ending the "Party of Lincoln". U.S. Grant was the last Republican president to still support Reconstruction, but now the South was free to pass "Jim Crow" laws to promote inequality, meaning that candle2's lie, "that all men are created equal", is just that, a lie. Just as 06 Jan 2021 exposes his lie about the GOP "[taking] us back to the Constitution". For that matter, I cannot think of a single Republican president after Grant who did anything good for the country. Indeed, the pattern this past half century has been one of the Republicans destroying the economy so that the next president, a Democrat, had to clean up their mess (with zero support and active resistance from the Republicans). Checking the figures makes it abundantly clear that the economy always does better under the Democrats than under the Republicans. Though I can think of one exception to that rule: President Eisenhower. But he doesn't really count since he wasn't very political -- both parties tried to recruit him as a presidential nominee. Rather, he had been an effective general and applied those pragmatic skills to his new duty assignment. Ike's best known achievement was the Interstate Highway System. Most people claim that he got the idea from seeing Germany's Autobahn system how it had functioned in military transportation during the war, but they forget the lessons brevet Lt.Col. Eisenhower learned from his participation in the 1919 1919 Motor Transport Corps convoy. That convoy drove over 3,000 mi on the historic Lincoln Highway from Washington, D.C., to Oakland, California and then by ferry over to end in San Francisco. It took them 56 days to complete the journey due to the bad roads and the need to stop and repair the many bridges (14 in Wyoming alone) that they either broke or else were in such obviously bad condition as to be unusable. As President, Ike was able to put his experience to good use in promoting the Interstate Highway System as a military priority. Now under a Democrat we finally have an infrastructure law to repair and improve what Ike had built, contrasting with an endless parade of "nothing-burger" "infrastructure weeks" under Trump. The Trump administration with its wild promises and zero delivery on those promises was like a joke I read in that teen magazine, Playboy (paraphrased from memory of a single reading more than half a century ago):
quote: That just seems to sum up Trump so well: all boast, no show.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
No hubris about it. Jesus wasn't born until millennia after the creation, so Paul was clearly wrong to associate Him with it.
ringo writes:
The hubris is strong in this one! Paul was wrong. Phat writes:
Since you don't answer most of what I post, I don't feel obligated to answer everything you demand. Name 5 specific things that the Apostle Paul was wrong about. If you want to discuss Paul being wrong, there's already an example on the table.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Jesus may have been born after the fact, but His birth was simply the point at which He stepped out of eternity into time. Imagine the God of the universe...Creator of all seen and unseen (including all of your cultural and mythological gods, spaghetti monsters, bigfeets, and numerous deities of various cultures originating in the minds of men) being a vulnerable human baby who poops his pants and has to be cared for by a Mother and Father? No wonder scripture shows us numerous attempts to wipe him out before he was even born.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
You're making that up.
Jesus may have been born after the fact, but His birth was simply the point at which He stepped out of eternity into time. Phat writes:
Give five examples. No wonder scripture shows us numerous attempts to wipe him out before he was even born.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Ringo, my mistake. l said that you were retarded, but.
you prefer mentally challenged. Why don't we just shorten it to MC? On a continum from a zygote to geriatric (aged),we have an embryo; fetus; newborn; infant; toddler; tween; teenager; and, adult. At what stage of development is the individualnot human? Several babies have survived outside the mother'swomb at the tender age of 21 weeks. We can detect a heartbeat by the 6th week. Babies can respond to touch by opening andclosing their their hands and eyes by the 12th weeks. The baby is also capable of smiling by this time. By the 20th week the baby on the humancontinuum has all the physiological connectings in place to feel pain. Some workers who have left this line of work havesaid that they heard the baby scream in pain while being scrambled to death. My question is why does this not bother you, MC? Why so cold and heartless about the most vulnerableof us who have no way to protect themselves? You say that Paul was wrong about Jesus creatingeverything. Well, according to the Bible, who did then createeverything? I never said that a woman who has an abortionshould be executed. I also believe it it wrong to kill a baby who ison the lower end of the human continuum who is conceived by rape. We do not even execute the rapist. It would befar worse to execute an innocent baby. The only reason I could see for an abortion isif the continued pregnancy puts the life of mother or both at a huge risk. But, these situations are quite rare. God is not a heartless animal. He look at our heart,our intentions, for why we do what we do. Lying is a sin. If we sometimes lie in order tokeep someone from being harmed or feeling emotional pain, God know this. In the same way, if an abortion is performed in orderto save the mother's life, God knows why. He will be there to then help the woman through theemotional pain and anguish.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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Dwise, the Democratic Party is responsible for Jim Crow
laws. They are also responsible for lynchings; poll taxes; theKKK; the re-emergence of the KKK; lynchings: breakup of the black family; racial strife; and, on top of this, they were responsible for Japanese-American internment during WW2. America's worse cities for crime and poverty are, andhave been, controlled by Democrats, without a Republican anywhere in sight for decades. These cities have received trillions in economic aid; yet,The people responsible (Democrats) for providing change have done nothing to improve conditions. They keep them this way, and then convince them that itis the fault of white Conservatives. They can do this because they have gained control ofacademia and the media. Any open-minded individual who watches the news cansee with crystal clarity the Liberal bias. This same bias in clearly evidenced to anyone going tocollege. Most people have a sheep mentality. You talk of improving the infrastructure. What good is itwhen we will soon not have the fuel in which to operate our vehicles. Unless something drastic happens, we will run out ofdiesel fuel in three weeks. Transportation of goods such as food will slow dranstically. This is not due to incompetence on the part of the Liberalleaders. It is part of their plan. They are breaking us down. Soon there will be no middleclass in America. Didn't you even watch the Democratic Presidental Debates.They tripped all over themselves trying to see who could get rid of fossil fuels the quickest. Or, to prove they were the biggest supporter of Socialism. You are going to feel like a total fool before long.I guarantee it.
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