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Author Topic:   The TRUE reason for the EvC controversy, and why it can not be resolved.
lfen
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Message 130 of 302 (298222)
03-26-2006 2:12 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by robinrohan
03-23-2006 10:10 AM


The reason is that evolution, unlike other scientific theories, has radical philosophical implications.
I don't agree. Other scientific theories have radical philosopical implictions. I would say that evolution, unlike other scientific theories has OBVIOUS and EASY TO GRASP radical philosophical implications. Prior to evolution the helio centric vs. geo centric models of the solar system was the subject of debate.
Evolution has also been given much press and the man in the street can personalize the notion of descent from a common ancester whereas relativity, quantum mechanics, and other subjects are not so easily represented.
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lfen
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Message 131 of 302 (298223)
03-26-2006 2:18 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by ReverendDG
03-26-2006 12:21 AM


Re: God and the Fall
Well you have to consider the business and marketing aspect. If the chair manufacture can show the fault is yours they don't have to replace the chair of refund your money.
The priests needed to have an excuse when the power they represented failed to represent the interests of the people. If the people went to a competitor the priest lost business but if the priests could convince the faithful that they were at fault and God was punishing them and that by renewing their commitment to the relions that ultimately the priests would deliver on their promises, well, they kept their customers coming in. The history of organized religion shows that this is indeed a very effective ploy.
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lfen
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Message 132 of 302 (298224)
03-26-2006 2:30 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by robinrohan
03-25-2006 11:52 PM


Re: You can't even keep track of what thread you're in.
Your use of Christian I would take to refer to the religion developed by Constantine. We have only a very tenuous glimpse of early Christianity.
It's possible there was an awakened teacher who died too young to fully develop his followers understanding and that all that remains is a garbled misunderstanding that some people are trying to correct.
This is only one possible explanation of liberal Christianity. The religion that Constantine's politics developed is a blend of disparate and conflicting agendas but by virtue of its being the dominant to nearly exclusive religion of Europe for hundreds of years means that its nonsense is so deeply engrained in our culture that it has a validity bestowed by tradition.
Remember that the religion of Constantine ruthlessly stamped out diversity and enforced orthodoxy. But I'm disappointed that you would give this kind of claim to power any intellectual validity. Whatever you think about the gnostics, unitaritans etc. they were part of the early history of the church and though modern liberal Christianity includes a political correctness group there is more to it than that.
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