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Or allow voting for a week, with paper mail in ballots freely available.Counts are validated and counted in secure manner with results confirmed against registered voters and confirmed by voters (double blind security?)Results not announced until electoral college -- allows any state with recount issues to get it done.Enjoy.

The only use of a computer that I would condone is one that facilitates filling out the ballot. Maybe a touchscreen, with justifiably lots of Windozian Are You Sure? buttons, to print out perfectly filled-in black ovals on the ballot and give you a receipt of how you voted so if there is an issue later, you can bring in your receipt and help verify what happened. Nothing gets destroyed.But it is already too late. The rich fuckers in power have already put in place lying machinery to make sure the "right" guys get elected.Kill Diebold!!!

So the tea party is FOR corporate bailouts and banksters running away with this country? The tea party is FOR massive income disparity? Corporate personhood where the richest of the rich run the country and the rest of us are left to beg for scraps?If I didn't know any better, I'd say you must be a millionaire.

Ahh, so this is why coyote types are "against" this movement...because Fox News told him to be. After Relentlessly Promoting Tea Party Protests, Fox Attacks Wall Street Protesters

http://mediamatters.org/.../201110030017#.TooEQ6v3I90.redditWhat a brilliant idea, we will take all the young people and make them serve in the military where they will learn that the 1% aren't bad. Hell many of the 1% directly support them by selling our government weapons systems, guns, ammo....ect, without these advanced systems they would be no better off than the people we are fighting. As an added benefit them pesky free-thinking young people might get some religion, yes yes, as they travel the mountain roads of Afghanistan they might start praying to god there won't be another IED or RPG attack.Sorry for the rant, but that particular comment got under my skin. Lets take the people who don't like the 1% and make them fight for the 1%.

A lot of other countries have mandatory military service.Finland, Norway, and Switzerland, for example, all have mandatory military service (conscription). I also think it would be a good idea, as long as there is good regulation. I know for me, my service was a real eye opener. I don't think I would have known what I do had it not been for the military. It forces people to think outside their own circle, if only due to being forced to interact with people who are different.

Finland, Norway, and Switzerland don't project power like we do either, they are primarily self defense forces I think.I am not against service in any way, I just feel it should be voluntary if you are going to serve in a combat role. I am not a fan of forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to do.There are a lot of benefits of serving, health care, college money, loans....ect.

That's a good point that I didn't consider.

I have had a few discussions with people 21-30 over a few pints. What I hear most is that they do not think their vote will matter, and there is no one that represents their views. My advice to them is to at least register and show up at the polls even if they don't vote. If politicians start seeing a big discrepancy between voter roll calls and number of votes submitted then perhaps some politicians will start to change their agenda to include younger americans.

It applies to both. Look at the number of TP candidates that turned up in Republican primaries, and some of them won. A progressive wing of the Democratic party could form the same way.

Hi hooah212002 Israel, etc.The BIG question though is: does national service HAVE to be military?One of the things that turned the Great Depression around and provided secure room and board for people was the public works projectsPublic Works Administration - Wikipedia

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The Public Works Administration (PWA), part of the New Deal of 1933, was a large-scale public works construction agency in the United States headed by Secretary of the Interior Harold L. Ickes. It was created by the National Industrial Recovery Act in June 1933 in response to the Great Depression. It built large-scale public works such as dams and bridges, warships, hospitals and schools. Its goals were to spend 3.3 billion in the first year, and $6 billion in all, to provide employment, stabilize purchasing power, and help revive the economy. Most of the spending came in two waves in 1933-35, and again in 1938. Originally called the Federal Emergency Administration of Public Works, it was renamed the Public Works Administration in 1939 and shut down in 1943.[1]

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The PWA spent over $6 billion in contracts to private construction forms that did the actual work. It created an infrastructure that generated national and local pride in the 1930s and remains vital seven decades later.

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President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "New Deal" aimed at promoting economic recovery and putting Americans back to work through Federal activism. New Federal agencies attempted to control agricultural production, stabilize wages and prices, and create a vast public works program for the unemployed. The West saw the heavy use of Works Progress Administration and Civilian Conservation Corps workers in National Forests and National Parks, and on Indian reservations for work on natural resource related projects and a legacy of buildings, roads, bridges, and trails remains in the Pacific Northwest as a result of these many projects.

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The Impact of Relief and Public Works Programs on Socioeconomic Welfare During the 1930s

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In mid-1935 the Roosevelt administration redesigned the federal government’s role in providing relief. The federal government continued to provide work relief for the unemployed who were employable through the Works Progress Administration (WPA), but returned much of the responsibility for direct relief of unemployables to state and local governments. Meanwhile, under the Social Security Act of 1935 the federal government established a series of matching grants for the states to help them in providing aid to dependent children, aid to the blind, and old-age assistance of the elderly poor. The Social Security Act also provided funds for states to administer Unemployment Insurance programs. The old-age pension system that we commonly call Social Security began collecting taxes in 1938 and the first pension payments were made in 1940.

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We still reap the benefits of those programs, especially the direct social and public benefits we don't see coming back from military systems\agencies. Money well spent IMHO.A similar program today, that would be voluntary service to the country and provide a means for young people to get around the country, meet other Americans, see different aspects of America than their home neighborhood.This could also be made a condition of immigration: work two years for the national benefit during the day, take english\history (american) at night, and whatever else to end up with a GED, and at the end qualify for citizenship.Could also be an alternative sentencing for minor crimes, and would likely result in less recidivism (studies have show that education reduces recidivism, but GOPs have shut down the programs because they spend money on "those" people when "they" should be paying for the crime of growing up poor [/rant]).Could be a good thing.Of course the Wall Street Protesters are already doing national service ... Enjoy.

I think a peace corps type of service would be great, just do it within our own country.Probably lot could be said about this, but I won't run this thread off-topic any more than I already have.

Democrats, and especially the far left, has been organized in this fashion since the late '60s.They know the value of organization and grass-roots movements. That's part of why they hate the Tea Party so much. They don't like the competition.

The countries I named, for example, offer alternative service and not just military service.

I don't see how anyone could actually hate something as insignificant as the Tea Party. Maybe fear it like all ignorance should be feared but more likely just find it amusing.