Hate the sin but love the person...except when voting?

That is creo logic for you, use it if it fits and if it dose not stomp all over it until such a time when it fits again to support your argument.I think it is because faith is more important to them then consistency, because consistency can sometimes disrupt faith and they cant have that, so they throw away consistency when it disrupts faith and haul it back in when it benefits them.

We have 2 marriages the civil and the church, the civil marriage is the one that counts it gets you all the papers and you are legaly married, tough if you want to you can then also get married in your church, And you cannot get married in a church or any other religions wedding without a civil wedding. well you could get married tough it would not count where it counts (to the state). Tough the RCC needs a paper as prof of civil marriage before they go forth with their "gods blessed" ceremony.

So umm you think if you dicurage them long enough they will stop being gay ??? And they will marry the opposite sex and have your 2.1 kids ??? I do not think you understand what being gay means.

It is a matter of biology, as fare as i understand it you have a 5% chance of being borne gay, if your siblings are gay you have a 25% chance of being gay too, and if your twin brother is gay you have a 50% chance of being gay too.Every one of us starts with the body of a woman in the womb at one stage the males start producing testosterone that changes the body and the brain, some believe that something goes "wrong" and the brain does not change to a "male" brain (or it does in cases of women), do to too much testosterone production, or too little.Studies on this are very young and we should know more in the future.

Look out in to "gods" creation nature and you will find 5% of the animals are gay so it looks pretty normal to me

Ok so if 5% of all animals are "Perverse" then being perverse must be relatively normal. If no other being except a small amount of humans where gay then it would not be normal.

So following this logic being gay can only be perverse or normal and since we found out it is normal it cannot be perverse lol

And still you eat shrimp witch is an abomination, like laying with womenkind like with mankind is an abomination.Or the other clear laws in the bible why do you not fight to instate those lawsDon't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that?If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10). I wonder if Dr. Laura would like that one to be enforced?If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death. (Leviticus 20:11)If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death. (Leviticus 20:14)If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed. (Leviticus 20:15-16). I guess you should kill the animal since they were willing participants. Are they crazy?If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27)If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake. (Leviticus 21:9)People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)Or why do you not act like thisAnyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2No all you do is fight for no homosexual marriage and ignore all the rest, because it suits you and your picture or vision of what gods word is.

A toy is not the RIGHT of a child. (education, shelter, food, .... those are children s rights)You and i have the RIGHT to marry the one we love. Gays do not have that right because they happen to love someone of the same sex.A better anecdote would be blacks should not have the right to vote, or women should not vote. Gays should not marry falls in the same category.

Ok lets take it from your world view What GOOD would come from gays not being able to marry?

Not even close as i said above TOYS ARE NOT THE RIGHT OF A CHILD!!!!!RIGHTS are the right to vote, the right of being borne free, the right to marry the one you love......Declining gays the right to marry is the same as declining Irish people the right of independence.Comparing rights to privileges is the same as comparing bricks to apples

So if they cant marry the gays will go away and not rebel anymore

Then children get tortured for information....Or usually the UN steps in and makes the country that violates basic rights pay fines.Basic rights are protected at least in the EU, if you have a right that is being violated you can file a lawsuit in Strasbourg and they will make your country pay you for violating that right and make them stop violating that right by making your country pay fines.One such right that Slovenians usually sue for is the right for a reasonably fast court proceeding or something like that (we like to sue our neighbors and relatives so the courts are backed up) usually when someone sues the country in they get 4000 EUR from our country and Slovenia gets fined a few grand.And if Slovenia made a law that was 100% supported by a referendum that no one has the right to a reasonably fast court procedure i would still be able to sue my country if my court procedure was not fast enough and i would still win and get my money because basic human rights are protected by international law.The whole international law of basic human rights would haveto be negated by the majority of all the countries that sighned it.THAT IS A RIGHT it is very hard to take a right from you in EUROPE in the US that is another storyA privilege is say a drivers license it can be taken away from you if you abuse it.Getting married with the one you love in my eyes is a right and no one should be able to denie it to you.

Of course england can coqure Ireland and enslave it and if the UN is no longer an authority you would not be able to do anything about it. Tough that has not happens yet and it is a very small chance that it will so currently rights are rights and privileges are privileges.And one day god may come down and say gay is the only way to go if you want to go to heaven, and he might also say it is ok to compare bricks to apples

I wonder what you are going to say when some pranists start a referendum on no more killing livestock because their religion prohibits killing of any animal. When they start to fight for no more production of bug spray .....When muslims start protesting to stop pork meat from being sold in shops.Or jews to stop producig food that is not koer or whateverIf you base your opinion that the laws of your religion must be enforced this opens the door so other religions laws must be enforced too.But fundies like you cannot see that because you do not acknowledge that other religions should have the same rights as your religion.And any one of those claims above can be supported with the same arguments as you have given for no gay marriage. The difference is that they would be fighting for surpessig privileges while you fight to suppress a right.