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Author Topic:   Hate the sin but love the person...except when voting?
Dr Adequate
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Message 243 of 391 (597370)
12-21-2010 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 241 by purpledawn
12-21-2010 6:52 AM


Re: Good of the Many or Individual Hatred
Over 200 posts and I still haven't seen a good argument (although I may have missed it) that voting against homosexual marriage by a Christian is driven by actual hatred of the individuals and not driven by the desire not to condone an act believed to be sinful or to "save" the person/society from "higher" judgment of an action perceived as sinful.
Yes, it's like burning heretics in that respect. If you burn them quickly after they repent under torture, then not only do you ensure that they go straight to heaven, but you also turn away the wrath of God which would doubtless otherwise fall on a heretical nation. Plus it creates jobs for honest woodcutters.
Anyone who imputes malice to it obviously needs to be set on fire a bit themselves, that'll teach 'em.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 270 of 391 (597414)
12-21-2010 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 266 by ICdesign
12-21-2010 10:07 AM


Re: Before you rest your case ...
And further more I wouldn't accuse them of hating me if they did vote against it.
Would you not? And yet you will make the following accusations against ringo:
Do you ever vote ringo? If you do I have to assume that you always do so out of hate.
Everything you are against is hatred. You and your buddies on this site think from a foundation of hate and that's why you assume everyone else does the same. How pathetic !!
So, you say that if someone tried to meddle in your private life so as to actually dissolve your marriage, you wouldn't accuse them of hating you. But if someone urges you not to so meddle in the private lives of others you will accuse him (and, for some reason, all his friends) of "thinking from a foundation of hate".
How odd.
For myself, I would take it more unkindly if someone tried to forcibly divorce me and my wife against our will than if they made a post on an internet forum urging me to keep my nose out of other people's private lives. But it seems that you see more hatred in the suggestion that you shouldn't interfere in the love lives of gay people than you would in a compulsion to dissolve your marriage.
Obviously the two of us have very different priorities. My marriage is more important to me than making gay people unhappy; but I guess it would be a strange world if we were all the same.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 317 of 391 (597528)
12-22-2010 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 312 by iano
12-22-2010 10:49 AM


Re: No one can give a reason
Should I cease working to prevent the propagation of all kinds of sin in society? Rape? Theft?
I wasn't aware that you were working to prevent the propagation of all kinds of sin in society. Could you tell us more about your campaign to re-introduce the death penalty for adulterers, disobedient children, and people who work on Saturdays? I think you'll find that there's a lot more of that going on than gay marriage, and it's important to have a sense of priorities.
Of course, if your priority was being mean to gay people rather than extirpating sin, then concentrating on them would make perfect sense. But (as you have explained) you are a crusader against all kinds of sin, and so perhaps you should start with the more common and more flagrant violations of the actual Ten Commandments and then move on to gay marriage when you're done with that.

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