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Topic: Hate the sin but love the person...except when voting?
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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half a dozen of one 6 of the other
Because heteros can already get married. There's no change there. Allowing gay marriage would be a change. Either I am losing something in the translation or this statement is missing something. Allowing gay marriage would be a change. Yes for Homosexuals, but where is the change for Heterosexuals? The Heterosexual marriage doesn't change, or if it does, how?
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Re: half a dozen of one 6 of the other
People fighting change, by voting against homo marriage, is not necessary hating the sinner. so they don't hate the sinner, they just hate anyone who disagrees with them.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 75 of 391 (596882)
12-17-2010 2:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 70 by iano
12-17-2010 12:29 PM
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The harm comes in exposing a child to that which is considered perverse. The point is that they are going to be exposed to it whether they want to or not. To me,I feel it is better for the child to know what is perverse and why and how to protect themselves to the perversion and its consequences. Ignorance is not bliss.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 91 of 391 (596918)
12-18-2010 12:16 AM
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Reply to: Message 83 by iano
12-17-2010 7:00 PM
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That is one prong. Another is to prevent the normalisation of that which is considered perverse in the first place. And what correlates what is perverse and what is not. What is normal?
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 98 of 391 (596940)
12-18-2010 11:05 AM
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Reply to: Message 93 by iano
12-18-2010 6:50 AM
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That is the point. worldviews are just that, worldviews. One person's views on something can in no way be made to confirm to all. If you don't like something, that is your privilege, but it can't discriminate against others, when that worldview isn't affected by another's.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 118 of 391 (597011)
12-18-2010 11:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 111 by ICdesign
12-18-2010 9:51 PM
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disagree with the idea that a society should put their stamp of approval on a perverted lifestyle and calling it OK and normal in the name of being politically correct. Show me where in anything, other than your book of myths, that homosexuality is perverted. Edited by bluescat48, : typo
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 154 of 391 (597075)
12-19-2010 12:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 132 by iano
12-19-2010 6:56 AM
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I see no need to answer this since frako, onifre & jar have answered it better than I could. I agree with them.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 165 of 391 (597104)
12-19-2010 5:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 162 by ICdesign
12-19-2010 4:21 PM
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Re: Before you rest your case ...
So you are then saying it's alright to hate the sinner when voting.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 211 of 391 (597306)
12-20-2010 8:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 199 by iano
12-20-2010 7:25 PM
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Re: reasoning?????
Assuming homosexual marriage is sinful That is your 1st problem, an assumption. What your assmption is, is irrelevant to lawmaking. Can a murder suspect be convicted on someone's assumption that the defendant committed the act? You need evidence that there is something wrong with homosexual marriage, which, thus far, is not coming.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 231 of 391 (597351)
12-21-2010 12:39 AM
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Reply to: Message 206 by iano
12-20-2010 7:52 PM
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Re: reasoning?????
If society takes something instituted by God with the purpose of establishing the shape of society per his desire then it does indeed become societies problem. God dealt with the Babel Tower at societal level. People were getting married long before your god was even known, as for the tower of babel, more babbling from a bronze aged myth
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 321 of 391 (597534)
12-22-2010 11:32 AM
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Reply to: Message 315 by iano
12-22-2010 11:12 AM
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Re: No one can give a reason
Is working to prevent the propagation of sin necessarily a hateful act? No, providing what you are preventing is truly a sin, which has not been shown. Because you see something as sinful doesn't make it so.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 326 of 391 (597542)
12-22-2010 11:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 324 by iano
12-22-2010 11:34 AM
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Re: Lemons suck
Wrong. You (or someone else) needs to show why my working towards a prohibition of gay marriage is necessarily hateful. Because it is denying the rights of one group on religious grounds, and no other reason.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 346 of 391 (597585)
12-22-2010 3:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 339 by ICdesign
12-22-2010 2:03 PM
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Re: No one can give a reason
Well, no what? It says plain as day homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. Might I ask whatsoever does this have to do with hating the sin but loving the person. It every instance you show that you hate both the sin and the sinner. Whether the homosexual will inherit the Kingdom of God, if there is such a thing, is irrelevant to the premise. Edited by bluescat48, : typo
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4219 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 361 of 391 (597605)
12-22-2010 5:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 352 by ICdesign
12-22-2010 4:33 PM
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Re: marriage not sin is the topic
What the Hell has homosexuality got to do with bestiality or paedophilia?
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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