Hate the sin but love the person...except when voting?

Excuse me there Oni but just because I use my freedom to vote against a behavior that I find offensive does not mean I hate the person committing that behavior any more than I would hate my child for committing an act I felt worthy of a spanking.In my opinion the hypocrisy is in you telling me I don't have a right to stand against a behavior
I disagree with. Hey, if two guys want to blow each other in the privacy of their own wherever and use their outies as innies, that is their choice. I don't hate a person who engages in this behavior.
Just because I vote against calling it normal behavior doesn't mean I am against the person. Its against the behavior and that is a huge difference.With your way of thinking you are saying the behavior IS the person so I am hating the person.
Well you are absolutely wrong on both accounts. I don't hate the person and the behavior is not the person.I disagree with the idea that a society should put their stamp of approval on a perverted lifestyle and calling it OK and normal in the name of being politically correct.Try running down the street with no clothes on and see how far you get. What's wrong with that? Why don't you have the right to do that? Because a society with morals made a law against it, because it is offensive to decent people, that's why!IC

That is a good question that I would be glad to answer for you subbie.Our society determined back before all this PC crap started up that it was normal and decent that marriage should be between a man and a woman. If gay people want to be in love and live together that is a choice they have a right to make. To rewrite the law and change what we as a society declare to be normal and OK is an entirely different issue.If I am in love with my dog and live with it as a spouse that may be my right but I don't have a right to ask society to call it normal and give me a thumbs up.I say we have already drawn the line in the sand about what is normal and decent and there is no need to change it.Ic

I think I did answer the question subbie.I think same sex relationships are unnatural and wrong on many levels. I believed this long before I became a Christian. If people want to engage this behavior they have a right in this country to engage. I disagree with society giving this behavior a thumbs up and sanctioning this type of a union as normal. Its not a matter of marriage benefits to me. Its a matter of calling wrong right. I have a right to express my opinion about this issue as does everyone else.I am a man. If I loved another man I would not expect expect society to change the law to accommodate my unusual desires.The Golden rule isn't a blank check to twist into whatever you desire just because it seems OK to you. Its referring to being kind to others. Its not a license for anything goes.IC

Racial issues are attacking a person.
Homosexual issues are attacking a behavior. That is the difference none of you seem to be able to grasp.

I probably would want it yeah. If was a rapist I would probably want everyone to tell me that was OK too. "Hey, I never really hurt anyone. If she is dressed sexy I have determined she wanted it".

Well I am shocked. You mean people on this Forum disagree with what I believe? Your telling me I am wrong and you believe the exact opposite of what I think is right?
WOW, I don't know if I have the will to go on ....

Obviously, I was just making the point that everybody wants approval or justification for what they think is OK.
That was my tongue in cheek of how far you can take the Golden Rule. "Hey, I would want her to jump my bones so I am going to do un to her"Just because a person "wants" something doesn't mean its my obligation to let them have it in the name of being nice.

You are breaking the Forum rules by attacking my person.
I have explained my position and I have a right to my opinion.
YOU are the person filled with hate not me.

I rest my case. You hate, you hate, you hate! You hate those who oppose your way of thinking. You hate God and you hate Christians.
If you want to tolerate any and every type of behavior people are willing to commit that is your spineless choice.
I do not roll over and tolerate the things I disagree with. If you want to hate me for that go right ahead. I have stated I do not hate homosexuals. You are the degenerate calling them fags, not me.

Actually jar the thread is titled "Hate the sin but love the person..except when voting?"
This is in regards to homosexuality being about the behavior and not the person committing the behavior. It suggests I hate the person if I vote against same sex marriage. I have stated very clearly what I believe and why I believe it in my posts. If you still don't get it may I recommend night school.We live in a democracy where we have the right to vote for what we think is good and right.
That is what I intend to do. ......no further comments.ICEdited by ICDESIGN, : No reason given.

This is such an idiotic statement I can't give you a pass on it ringo.
How can you possibly vote for anything without going against the opposing view.The Golden Rule is entirely about trying to be kind to others in your day to day living. It does not mean we are to be weaklings and not fight for what we believe is good and right. Do you think Jesus was worried about the Golden Rule when he overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves in Matthew 21:12?If I see some pig beating and raping a woman I will beat his ass with a baseball bat if I have to to get him to stop. The Golden Rule has its place and so does being a man and fighting for what is right.
The bible says homosexuality is a sin that God condemns and I will battle against it on all fronts.If a group of people decide they are offended with marriage between a man and a women they have every right to voice their view against it. The Golden Rule does not apply in this arena and
those of you who think it does are hypocrites every time you go to a voting booth.I am really sick of this dumb discussion now so I am gone,IC

Wow this is like trying to teach a preschooler a simple truth here...Sigh...
So you think Jesus would want to be corrected in this fashion "IF" he were in need of correction then? I personally have never met anyone who desired to be publicly embarrassed and humiliated in this fashion. That's right, all of you have been judgmentally accusing me of hate when I never once made a hateful comment. I have clearly stated over and over I DO NOT HATE THEM.I'll say it again. The Golden Rule does not apply in the voting arena. Hate of a person is wrong yes.
Disagreeing with an issue does not mean you hate the person. What is the matter with you people here?The Golden Rule is doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Would you want someone to vote against you or the idea you are promoting? No you wouldn't.IC

You would rather look like a bag of hammers than admit your wrong wouldn't you ringo? But as I stated before, I welcome them to vote against my marriage if they are against it because I acknowledge their right to participate in our Democracy. And further more I wouldn't accuse them of hating me if they did vote against it.Do you ever vote ringo? If you do I have to assume that you always do so out of hate.
Everything you are against is hatred. You and your buddies on this site think from a foundation of hate and that's why you assume everyone else does the same. How pathetic !!
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1 Corinthians 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
Did this miss any of us? If so please see Romans 3:23Tell us then Crashfrog, since you are an expert on what the bible teaches; how does a person earn the right to enter the kingdom of God?

Well, no what? It says plain as day homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. You were wrong when you said the bible does not say gay's will not go to heaven. Of course, I never expected you to be man enough to admit you were wrong. 1Corinthians is not an anonymous epistle. You can discover that if you read the first verse.
Hebrews is the only book of the bible with an unknown writer. I thought Iano covered this well enough in Message 304 but let me say this; its just as hard for a liar to enter heaven as a homosexual or any other sinner. The homosexual is named specifically several times throughout scripture because homosexuality is a specific sin. Once again you are entirely wrong. Sexual immorality is one of the most condemned and talked against sins in scripture. Actually Crash, you surprised me here and were actually half right about something for a change. You painted yourself into a corner though. On the one hand you are saying no one can earn entry into the kingdom of God. On the other hand you are saying you can qualify by being Christlike enough. You can't have it both ways.I can walk you through the actual truth as to what the scripture does teach but I would like to see your answer first.IC