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Message 1 of 154 (254078)
10-22-2005 8:19 PM


From EvC Forum: What ever happend to Dan Carroll? Warning: Serenity spoilers!:
Brian writes:
These guys have probably moved one because the quality of this site has nosedived in the last 6 months or so.
Once we started the 'Boot Camp' and the PNT the writing was on the wall, EvC will never be what it once was.
I think that the prime problem is that this forum has matured to the point that pretty much all the good stuff has been done several times over. Also, the population has grown such that it can no longer be the "happy little community" that it was.
The Proposed New Topics (PNT) forum was started about 1 1/2 years ago. In all, I think it is a positive if not always perfectly executed concept (I am heavily skeptical about the new "In the News" forum. My instinct is that it function mainly as a PNT dodge). What would things be like without the PNT process?
The "Boot Camp" was an effort to isolate the "bad debate" away from the "good debate". Probably a failed concept - An evolutionary dead end.
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Message 31 of 154 (254440)
10-24-2005 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by Brian
10-24-2005 9:24 AM


Mike the Wiz was never really an admin
Mike the Wiz was never an administrator. He had adopted the "AdminMike" name as an alias, and was promptly told to change it to something else.
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Message 51 of 154 (254823)
10-25-2005 9:35 PM


Dan Carroll, from the other topic that helped launch this one
Source: EvC Forum: What ever happend to Dan Carroll? Warning: Serenity spoilers!
Dan Carroll writes:
Jar did indeed drop me a line, thought I'd swing by. And oh lordy be, I think I'm gonna cry. But a manly kind of cry. The kind where you clench a fist and listen to Johnny Cash. You people are beautiful.
Mike is, for once in his life, right about something... both about the spelling of my name, and the fact that Chicago was safely out of the path of the mighty wrath of YHWH that recently swept across America. Good work, kid. You'll go far.
Schraf is, as usual, absolutely right. "The Windy City" refers to politics... specifically, I think, to the Lincoln-Douglas debates. Although thanks to Lake Michigan, it happens to be an exceptionally windy city. I like living in a city that has a redundant meta-nickname. And for the record, it was only through great strength of will and intense physical control that I avoided having an orgasm in the theater while watching Serenity.
As for me, my departure wasn't so much a planned disappearance as it was a gradual sorta disinterest. As I said to Jar, it wound up feeling like it was the same merry-go-round over and over again, cranking out the same stock responses to the same stock arguments every day. Eventually you kinda wanna beat your head into a wall. Combine it with the fact that I moved up North, which kept me busy and off the internet for a while, and I just sorta trailed off.
And yeah, I'd be lying if I said the fun of this place hadn't gone downhill. (As some have pointed out on this thread.) When I first came on, it was a bit of a hoot ripping on the occasional (or really, intensely frequent) nutcases that populated the board. Say what you want about Wise and Willowtree, they made for some exceptionally entertaining flamewars. And it was a solid formula... some crackpot would post his theory about a bear's paw as a symbol for the Adversary, or about how Jesus can be seen in a floating cloud of stellar gas, his lips clearly mouthing "repeal Roe v. Wade", and we would all smack him down with the immature ferocity of a thousand 15 year old gamers. Good clean fun every time.
Then the boot camp came along, along with a general crackdown on tomfoolery. And yeah, given that my role around here was to provide some much-needed sarcasm, the forum didn't so much seem like the place for me to be.
That being said, I think the crackdown is ultimately a good thing. For the love of crimney, look at the country over the course of the past five years. The President of the United States actually just got up in front of the nation and proudly reccomended teaching Intelligent Design in schools. I mean honestly, Intelligent freakin' Design, the academic equivalent of medical leeches. The country is on one big downslide of nonsense and ignorance, and the more venues ther are for freely available hard science, the better. There are scads of smart folks around here, perfectly capable of providing some mental two-by-fours to the skull, and that kind of thing generally works better if it's not drowned out by dick jokes.
Generally, at least. It's a case by case basis, really.
Wanted to bring this one over yesterday, but for some strange reason I'm having problems copy/pasting with Firefox.
Kind of strange when it is Dan who seems to be in the vacinity of my position.
I think the "Proposed New Topic" (PNT) is here to stay, subject to some modifications of how it is implimented. I think there was, and continues to be good reasons why the PNT process was started. We must have a relevant thread concern the "Whys" of the PNT, somewhere. Will try to track it down later, if someone else doesn't do it sooner.
Also need to track the original "General discussion of moderation procedures" topic. I think much of that is worth another reading.
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Message 76 of 154 (255055)
10-27-2005 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by Chiroptera
10-27-2005 8:47 AM


Re: What is up with EvC and what do we do?
These sorts of people are exactly the reason I join these boards.
I think it was also the reason the "Boot Camp" forum was tried - A compromise between doing nothing and (an upcoming?) suspension.
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Message 110 of 154 (256413)
11-03-2005 2:28 AM


The genesis of the Proposed New Topics forum
For the historical perspective:
The "Proposed New Topics" forum came into existence on 4/13/04 (or 13/4/05, if you don't like the damn American notation). It started in April 2004.
Dealing with waste of time threads and their posters... is the topic that triggered the Proposed New Topics idea.
How do you all feel about the new posting rules? is the follow up discussion topic.
For the admins only, there is the My 'New new topic control measures' proposal topic.
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