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Message 844 of 1197 (907180)
02-19-2023 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 841 by Dredge
02-19-2023 3:00 PM


You don't know how even ONE alleged evolutionary transition evident in the fossil record happened.
Sure we do. But whatever level of evidence we present will never be enough. If we answer at one level you "level leviosa" to something more intricate until you hit the impossible to answer and then declare victory.
Creationists. Typical dishonest.

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Message 847 of 1197 (907216)
02-20-2023 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 846 by Dredge
02-20-2023 11:58 AM


You can't prove that any of your theories viz-a-viz evolution in the fossil record are the truth, therefore you can't claim to know the truth.
In your impossible ever to achieve perfection of knowledge you can't ever prove anything ... especially your god.
But a preponderance of the evidence and the accuracy of our models informs us evolution is the reality. Everything else is stupid religious fantasy.

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Message 849 of 1197 (907221)
02-20-2023 4:09 PM
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02-20-2023 3:28 PM


Re: Altar Boys and Cardinal Sins
Im testing to see whether or not AZPaul3's hatred of God and religion ...
Really, Phat? Do I have to keep saying this?
I suppose if one has the mind of a child then hating the fictional antagonist in their favorite show would be excusable. I may not alway act it but I don't have the mind of a child. You can't hate something that doesn't exist, Phat. You should know that.
I can hate the concept, the idea of god, but that is only a side effect.
I hate the evil people do in the name of their religion.
I hate the way people are led to that evil by deception of their equally deluded priests.
I hate that religious thought is so violently oppressive to critical thought and the revelation of reality.
I hate religion.
Religion is poison to the species, Phat. Your god is kin to the sugar coating on that bitter evil pill you want everyone to swallow.

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Message 851 of 1197 (907228)
02-21-2023 7:09 AM
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02-21-2023 6:40 AM


Fuck You. Do your own research.
If you can't find anything then you are not looking hard enough or you are lying.

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Message 855 of 1197 (907234)
02-21-2023 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 852 by Dredge
02-21-2023 7:28 AM


but you can't describe the process involved in even one of them?
Not "can't", there bunky (you're lying again), but won't.
There are plenty of examples on the net. If you cannot find any then you are lying. Frankly, that is to be expected.
Or, better, go to your local university, take a semester of biology, evolution or genetics. When you're done come back here and we'll discuss what you learned.

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Message 868 of 1197 (907256)
02-21-2023 11:45 AM
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02-21-2023 11:17 AM


Re: Typical?
The quote describes what the fossil record reveals
No. It doesn't.
The quote is out of context. Your source lied to you and without checking, you lied to us. Cite the rest of the paragraph, Altar Boy or your jesus-meat crackers will give you heartburn for breaking a commandment.

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Message 875 of 1197 (907267)
02-21-2023 12:37 PM
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02-21-2023 12:29 PM


Re: Typical?
So you've uttered a falsehood.
No, Taq was right. Nested hierarchy proves common ancestry and evolution.
You don't like that fact so you try to ignore it.

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Message 880 of 1197 (907279)
02-21-2023 1:00 PM
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02-21-2023 12:53 PM


Re: Typical?
Oh, so you can prove that humans descended from bacteria, but science can't. Interesting.
Science did already. That's where his info came from.
Pay attention, Dredge.

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Message 883 of 1197 (907285)
02-21-2023 1:05 PM
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02-21-2023 1:01 PM


Re: Typical?
What's lacking, viz-a-viz the theory of evolution, are fossil links between the various phyla ...
Not lacking, but, unknown to you.
Have you ever been to a natural history museum? If you go you can actually see some of these lacking transitionals.

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Message 887 of 1197 (907296)
02-21-2023 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 885 by Dredge
02-21-2023 1:16 PM


Re: Typical?
This article says you're wrong:
No it doesn't. The article is right and so am I. Stumped, aren't you. That dumb cracker munching confused look on your face?
The article is right for a very specific usage of the word. I am right for the common parlance use of the word.
You have tried to sow confusion between the two for your own nefarious purposes on a number of occasions, as I recall. Paybacks a bitch. I tried to warn you in your test thread.

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Message 889 of 1197 (907300)
02-21-2023 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 888 by Dredge
02-21-2023 1:51 PM


Re: Typical?
I'll continue to believe that the Cambrian explosion presents a major problem for the theory of evolution and UCD.
And, in the tradition of catholicism down through the millennia you would be wrong.
Lack of some specific scientific data does not equal god, Dredge, no matter how much you may want it to.

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Message 891 of 1197 (907421)
02-23-2023 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 890 by sensei
02-23-2023 2:02 PM


Re: Typical?
Except the gaps are expected since the physics at the time did not allow for mass fossilization. The gaps represent those missing fossils and not all of them are missing. There are enough to show that patterns of descent can extend into the cambrian. Since all our experience in biology is that all lineages branch and radiate we have no data or reasoning to assume the same does not also apply to the ediacaran to cambrian radiations.
You want to put your god in a big bad knowledge hole that we know is explainable, logical and temporary. That's not very convincing.

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Message 896 of 1197 (907444)
02-24-2023 7:22 AM
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02-24-2023 4:14 AM


Re: Typical?
Areas of ignorance abound. Feel free to hide your god in any of them.

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Message 907 of 1197 (907590)
02-26-2023 12:00 AM
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02-25-2023 6:33 PM


Re: Typical?
What bad and false assumptions are being made? How do you know they are bad assumptions?

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Message 909 of 1197 (907606)
02-26-2023 8:24 AM
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02-26-2023 7:11 AM


Re: Typical?
So the nested hierarchy is the only pattern we see in life. So evolution is evidenced once again.
You can provide no evidence or acceptable logic to show any alternative.
Evolution is the only real game in town.

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