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Message 692 of 1197 (906669)
02-15-2023 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 666 by ringo
02-09-2023 11:47 AM


Re: Typical?
Taq writes:
Why would God limit himself to a nested hierarchy when it is entirely unnecessary?
What is limiting about a hierarchy? What is unnecessary about it?

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Message 694 of 1197 (906671)
02-15-2023 8:30 PM
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02-15-2023 8:16 PM


Re: Typical?
You do not understand the position being made.
And you came to this conclusion based on what?
... the space of possible patterns that could have appeared.
You would expect a different pattern? Which one?
Or multiple patterns mixed together or something? Why?

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Message 697 of 1197 (906684)
02-16-2023 5:11 AM
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02-15-2023 10:37 PM


Re: Typical?
If you take one lottery ticket out of a million, it will always be one ticket out of a million. Any other ticket would also be one out of a million, with the exact same probability.
Your argument is evidence for nothing!

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Message 698 of 1197 (906685)
02-16-2023 5:17 AM
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02-16-2023 12:29 AM


Re: Typical?
If we would generate millions of totally random DNA sequencies, the sequences can always be arranged in a nested hierarchy. As we will be able to find groups of sequences that are closer to each other than to other sequences. Similar sequences form a group in the nested hierarchy. Nothing special about nested hierarchies. Unlike what evolutionists want us to believe.

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Message 703 of 1197 (906701)
02-16-2023 11:37 AM
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02-16-2023 7:59 AM


Re: What God?
All you do is ranting the same evolutionist nonsense, instead of actually responding to any of my points.

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Message 704 of 1197 (906702)
02-16-2023 11:43 AM
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02-16-2023 8:36 AM


Re: Typical?
If you know so well what a nested hierarchy is, then proof me wrong. Otherwise, you are just full of empty claims with nothing to back it up!

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Message 705 of 1197 (906705)
02-16-2023 11:53 AM
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02-16-2023 9:38 AM


Re: What God?
Are you done ranting nonsense and showing your disrespect? Because it says more about you than the people you are trying to bash.

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Message 710 of 1197 (906712)
02-16-2023 12:09 PM
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02-16-2023 11:55 AM


Re: Typical?
So because their are no elephants with bird wings or anything like that, you find that to be strong evidence for evolution?
You gonna need to do better than this. But evolution science seems to have degraded to this level.

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Message 711 of 1197 (906713)
02-16-2023 12:15 PM
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02-16-2023 11:59 AM


Re: Typical?
Human design shows a lot of nesting. We see many variations of bicycles. But we don't see a bicycle with a built in coffee bean grinder. Does that surprise you? Do you think human designs are limiting because of this?

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Message 712 of 1197 (906714)
02-16-2023 12:16 PM
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02-16-2023 12:09 PM


Re: Typical?
Do you understand that one ticket has the same probability as any other single ticket?

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Message 729 of 1197 (906758)
02-16-2023 2:30 PM
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02-16-2023 12:49 PM


Re: What God?
You sound like a broken record. You demonstrated that you lack the necessary skills for logical thinking, by changing subject and trying to sound smart.

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Message 730 of 1197 (906759)
02-16-2023 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 714 by Taq
02-16-2023 12:18 PM


Re: Typical?
Not really. Everytime we see something that does not fit the hierarchy, evolutionists just change and adjust their narrative and stories. We have mammals that fly, mammals that swim in deep oceans, mammals with beaks. Variety is huge. And you think it fits evolution, because you have been brain washed into the narrow tunnel vision. The countless variety in species is evidence for design, if anything.

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Message 734 of 1197 (906773)
02-16-2023 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 731 by Taq
02-16-2023 3:08 PM


Re: Typical?
Nested hierarchy proves nothing. If it does, then go ahead and use it to prove universal common ancestry. You can't, because it does not prove a thing. All evolutionists can do is make up stories and be impressed by their precious tree of life.

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Message 738 of 1197 (906779)
02-16-2023 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 731 by Taq
02-16-2023 3:08 PM


Re: Typical?
The life tree is not one of evolution. Look at the many species of crocodiles, mosquitos, spiders, ants, worms, snakes, butterflies. Such huge varieties in sizes, colors, shapes, but each fit perfectly inside their niche group for period of tens or hundreds of millions of years. Yet one single mammal ancestor species supposedly branched by progressive evolution into over 20 different orders of species. Such variety in one group on the level of orders, but the absence of such in so many other common groups, is evidence of design choice. It does not at all fit the evolution narrative of random mutation upon mutation upon mutation happening in each and every group.
Evolutionists are living in denial of obvious truth. Obvious for wiser men who know how to comprehend and appreciate the intelligence hidden in plain sight.

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Message 739 of 1197 (906783)
02-16-2023 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 736 by Tanypteryx
02-16-2023 3:35 PM


Re: Typical?
And we don't have a single organism with a jet engine. You want to bore me with lists of what we don't have? To prove what exactly?
So you think evolution must be true, because no mammal has feathers? Making up arbitrary rules, to defend your precious theory is just pathetic!

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