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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Dredge writes: This article says you're wrong: Apparently you don't understand the difference between common usage and technical accuracy. All of the time we hear that someone is proven guilty in a court of law, and yet court decisions are as tentative as scientific conclusions. When someone says that a theory has been proven true it is in the same sense that someone is proven guilty in a court of law.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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This article says you're wrong: No it doesn't. The article is right and so am I. Stumped, aren't you. That dumb cracker munching confused look on your face? The article is right for a very specific usage of the word. I am right for the common parlance use of the word. You have tried to sow confusion between the two for your own nefarious purposes on a number of occasions, as I recall. Paybacks a bitch. I tried to warn you in your test thread. Edited by AZPaul3, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
There is a MASSIVE gap between ediacaran and cambrian radiations that evolution can't (sensibly) explain away ... the predicted evolutionary links between ediacaran and cambrian are virtually non-existent ...Taq writes:
Wake me up when the missing fossils are discovered ... meanwhile I'll continue to believe that the Cambrian explosion presents a major problem for the theory of evolution and UCD.
Prove to us that they are non-existent. Show us every single fossil that is in the Earth right now.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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I'll continue to believe that the Cambrian explosion presents a major problem for the theory of evolution and UCD. And, in the tradition of catholicism down through the millennia you would be wrong. Lack of some specific scientific data does not equal god, Dredge, no matter how much you may want it to.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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sensei Member Posts: 480 Joined: |
Massive gaps does indicate that there is ample reason to doubt the theory.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Except the gaps are expected since the physics at the time did not allow for mass fossilization. The gaps represent those missing fossils and not all of them are missing. There are enough to show that patterns of descent can extend into the cambrian. Since all our experience in biology is that all lineages branch and radiate we have no data or reasoning to assume the same does not also apply to the ediacaran to cambrian radiations.
You want to put your god in a big bad knowledge hole that we know is explainable, logical and temporary. That's not very convincing. Edited by AZPaul3, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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sensei writes: Massive gaps does indicate that there is ample reason to doubt the theory. The only reason why there would be gaps in an incomplete fossil record is if common ancestry is true. If species groups were separately created then there wouldn't be gaps because there would be no reason to expect something transitional between any two groups. Because life has evolved from a common ancestor we do have a nested hierarchy, and that nested hierarchy tells us where the gaps are.
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sensei Member Posts: 480 Joined: |
You should stop making assumptions about creation. They make you look silly.
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sensei Member Posts: 480 Joined: |
There are countless of gaps in many other areas, like complex protein evolution, complex organs evolution, etc.
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
This is a rather interesting rabbit trail that you have opened up. Let's discuss it
here: Message 891
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Areas of ignorance abound. Feel free to hide your god in any of them.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo, replying to Dredge writes: I think one may have kidnapped ringo. I've not heard nary a word from him in over a week. Or perhaps he is just on a vacation. Demons are a fantasy. Since this is a science topic, I won't elaborate on demons any further. Edited by Phat, .
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Areas of ignorance abound. Feel free to hide your god in any of them. By all means, yes! It's so much fun to watch that god panic as our knowledge increases and that gap it's hiding in closes up. Or does a God of the Gaps in a closing gap act more like the proverbial frog in water that being heated up to a boil, blissfully ignorant of its own impending demise?
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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sensei writes: You should stop making assumptions about creation. That's all you have? Just accuse people of making assumptions without demonstrating that they are assumptions? Really? We conclude that evolution and common ancestry are true because we observe a nested hierarchy. There's also tons of other evidence. It is a conclusion based on mountains of evidence, not an assumption.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
sensei writes: There are countless of gaps in many other areas, like complex protein evolution, complex organs evolution, etc. That falls flat when you ignore the gaps that are filled.
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