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Phat
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Message 1366 of 1864 (907134)
02-19-2023 9:56 AM
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02-19-2023 9:48 AM


Re: Gnock Gnock
Several people have already finished the joke.
The Orthodox Guy. (Answer: The Icon)
The Roman Catholic. (Answer: The Pope)
The Conservative Protestant. (Answer: Jesus H. Trump)
The Episcopalian Critical Thinker. (Answer: What does that even mean?)
ringo. (Answer: Some Goober )
AZ Does It (Answer: A vile and evil "jesus meat" God)

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Phat
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Message 1367 of 1864 (907136)
02-19-2023 10:02 AM
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02-18-2023 7:19 PM


Mind Over Matter ©
Here is another good joke. What came first? Mind or Matter?
Answer: If you don't mind, it doesnt matter!

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Phat
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Message 1368 of 1864 (907137)
02-19-2023 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1361 by Greatest I am
02-19-2023 9:36 AM


Ignorance Is Diss
I was mad at him last week for crowing about the RCC being the only church with the Spirit. He is ok, though. He really isnt nine, but Im unsure of his IQ.
Perhaps you can explain Gnosticism as you see it before I have to look it up.

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Message 1369 of 1864 (907138)
02-19-2023 10:10 AM
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02-19-2023 10:05 AM


Re: Ignorance Is Diss
Phat writes:
I was mad at him last week for crowing about the RCC being the only church with the Spirit.
That couldn't have been me ... I never said the RCC is "the only church with the Spirit".

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Phat
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Message 1370 of 1864 (907139)
02-19-2023 10:15 AM
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02-18-2023 3:08 PM


Re: Lets Examine Bruce Shelley
Theodoric writes:
I will leave history to the historians and the theologians should stick with theology.
The problem there is that the Historians that you have mentioned are all non believers. Consider one thing. IF Jesus actually existed and was/is a messenger and some say character of God, would it change things with you? Or did you just throw God away too like all the other deceived Historians?
The point is you had the date wrong. Was it you or was it him?
It was me. I was sloppy. I never proofread anything! I submitted reactions to my teachers rather than footnoted responses. It may have affected my grades.
Why don't you confirm shit before you post your crap?
I suppose that if you were running the place you would have a rule that nobody can post unless they take 20 minutes to proofread their post and indicating a rational response versus a kneejerk reaction. Not that it would be a bad rule.....

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Message 1371 of 1864 (907140)
02-19-2023 10:19 AM
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02-19-2023 10:05 AM


Re: Ignorance Is Diss
I didn't ask Greatpest-I-am for an explanation of "Gnosticism" ... I know a little about that bs already. I asked him what "Gnostic Christianity" is ... which I suspect isn't Christianity at all.

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Phat
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Message 1372 of 1864 (907141)
02-19-2023 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1292 by jar
02-16-2023 5:35 PM


Re: Historical facts not christian propganda
jar writes:
And genocide is more than just killing individuals, it is the destruction and eradication of cultures and languages and histories and societies and ...
And propaganda. You are very anti American today. The Land of the Free is the champion of genocide?? What evil spirit is using you to discredit the United States? Not that our History is innocent, mind you

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Greatest I am
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Message 1373 of 1864 (907142)
02-19-2023 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1364 by Dredge
02-19-2023 9:51 AM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
Equality is downsizing religions, as parents refuse to downsize their love for an LGBTQ+ or female child.
Premise ---
Parents want to love their LGBTQ+ kids without prejudice or negative discrimination.
I see Christianity and all religiosity shrinking. Churches closing, etc, while new Temples and Mosques of the wisdom seeking genre, --- as opposed to God seeker, --- are popping up to replace the God seeker religions.
This intelligent trend is to put humans and universality and inclusion over the Gods we have created, --- is nice to see as it returns us to a modernized version of the ancient and better days.
Demographics and stats are clear that the God religions of today will either have to adapt to a more secular view, --- and especially stop preaching --- that a parent has to downsize their love for a LGBTQ+ child.
Gnostic Christianity and Laïcité are the future, as we already disavow such vile evil.
We curse words like --- and the men are a degree above them [women] and he will rule over you [women], etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJvktEcf87A
Regards
DL

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Message 1374 of 1864 (907143)
02-19-2023 10:34 AM
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02-19-2023 10:05 AM


Re: Ignorance Is Diss
Think of your salvation of your mind.
Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught. Put man above God.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Allan Watts explains those quotes in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw
Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU
The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.
Regards
DL

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Phat
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Message 1375 of 1864 (907144)
02-19-2023 10:35 AM
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02-19-2023 10:19 AM


America: Champion of Genocide (says the Left)
Dredge writes:
I didn't ask Greatpest-I-am for an explanation of "Gnosticism" ... I know a little about that bs already. I asked him what "Gnostic Christianity" is ... which I suspect isn't Christianity at all.
One good thing about this bunch around here is that they force me to do my homework by looking up stuff I normally wouldn't bother to look up. They ("critics") would say that you and I are biased with our sources of information but I charge them for being just as biased. jar has absolutely nothing good to say about America. Neither does Theo, unless talking about the woke agenda.
I believe that both of them would rather live here than in any other country on earth. I know I would. (Canada is a close second, but they have issues too. )

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Message 1376 of 1864 (907147)
02-19-2023 11:03 AM
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02-19-2023 9:26 AM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
Again you expose your ignorance. You do know you can easily research the term rather than sound ignorant, don't you?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1377 of 1864 (907148)
02-19-2023 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1367 by Phat
02-19-2023 10:02 AM


Re: Mind Over Matter ©
Is there any chance you will stay on topic?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1378 of 1864 (907149)
02-19-2023 11:07 AM
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02-19-2023 10:19 AM


Re: Ignorance Is Diss
Well if you were not so willfully ignorant you would know that Gnosticism is one of the first Christian sects.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 1379 of 1864 (907154)
02-19-2023 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1377 by Theodoric
02-19-2023 11:04 AM


Re: Mind Over Matter ©
I am on topic. Essentially we are talking about God. GIA chimed in with his gnostic belief that we ourselves have a christ consciousness and are god.(Hence Greatest I AM)
His teachers include Alan Watts. (from transcript)
transcript writes:
what would the real gospel be the real
0:11
good news is not simply that Jesus of
0:15
Nazareth was the son of God
0:19
but that he was a powerful Son of God
0:26
who came to open everybody's eyes to the
0:29
fact that you are too
Of course I'm about to argue that Gnosticism is heresy, but I will need to get my data together. And as jar mentions, all of this is simply mans attempts to use religion in general as an appeal to authority.
You know my counter argument, I hope. The meaning of the Trinity is the essential meaning to the central figure in Christianity. Which, despite GIAs assertion backed by Alan Watts, is NOT man.

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Message 1380 of 1864 (907155)
02-19-2023 11:38 AM
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02-19-2023 11:34 AM


Re: Mind Over Matter ©
Phat writes:
Of course i'm about to argue that gnosticism is heresy, but I will need to get my data together.
Perhaps this will help ...
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Gnosticism

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