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Dredge
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Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1021 of 1429 (901058)
11-04-2022 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1016 by Stile
11-04-2022 10:22 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Stale writes:
My name has always been Stile.
Silence. I have changed your name to "Stale". You don't have a say in the matter.

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Stile
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Posts: 4295
From: Ontario, Canada
Joined: 12-02-2004


Message 1022 of 1429 (901059)
11-04-2022 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1021 by Dredge
11-04-2022 11:02 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
I have changed your name to "Stile". You don't have a say in the matter.
Sure.
The point is that nuts and bolts are irrevocably important to the manufacture of vehicles. Understanding this importance leads to greater vehicle technology.
The point is that UCD is irrevocably important to those genetic similarities existing. Understanding this importance leads to greater biological/medicinal technology.

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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days)
Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1023 of 1429 (901061)
11-04-2022 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 1022 by Stile
11-04-2022 11:12 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Stale writes:
The point is that nuts and bolts are irrevocably important to the manufacture of vehicles. Understanding this importance leads to greater vehicle technology.
The point is that UCD is irrevocably important to those genetic similarities existing. Understanding this importance leads to greater biological/medicinal technology.
Silence. Your "nuts and bolts" analogy is stupid and meaningless ... not to mention, stale. It's a sad reflection of your below-average intelligence.
Never mention it again.

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Taq
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Message 1024 of 1429 (901062)
11-04-2022 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 1013 by Dredge
11-04-2022 9:27 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Wrong again, wrongsmith. Thousands of scientific papers begin with the Darwinist (unproven) assumption of UCD.
UCD is a conclusion based on the evidence of a nested hierarchy of similarities, a nested hierarchy that you continue to ignore.

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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days)
Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1025 of 1429 (901065)
11-04-2022 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1019 by Taq
11-04-2022 10:54 AM


Re: UCD evidence
[qs=Taq]Ignoring the facts won't make them go away.]/qs]
Unfortunately, it's become evident that discerning "the facts" is definitely not your forté.
I recommend you seek professional help in the form of cult-deprogramming therapy.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1026 of 1429 (901066)
11-04-2022 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1000 by Dredge
11-03-2022 1:55 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Your comment proves that you don't understand my argument ... as simple as it is.
Your evasion suggests that YOU can't explain it.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days)
Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1027 of 1429 (901067)
11-04-2022 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1024 by Taq
11-04-2022 11:26 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Taq writes:
UCD is a conclusion based on the evidence of a nested hierarchy of similarities, a nested hierarchy that you continue to ignore.
I ignore it bcoz evidence for UCD is irrelevant to my argument.
Assume that I accept UDC ... that might help you better understand my argument, which is clearly causing you some confusion.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1028 of 1429 (901068)
11-04-2022 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1006 by Dredge
11-03-2022 8:02 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
The reason mammals are genetically closer to humans is because of similarities in DNA. Period.
And there are similarities in their DNA because they are related. Period.
Dredge writes:
If you don't believe evolution created the genetic similarities, what effect will that have on those genetic similarities?
If you don't believe the earth is round, what effect will that have on the shape of the earth?
None. But it will reveal you as an idiot.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days)
Posts: 2850
From: Australia
Joined: 09-06-2016


Message 1029 of 1429 (901069)
11-04-2022 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1026 by ringo
11-04-2022 11:39 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
What "evasion"?

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1030 of 1429 (901070)
11-04-2022 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1023 by Dredge
11-04-2022 11:26 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
our "nuts and bolts" analogy is stupid and meaningless ... not to mention, stale. It's a sad reflection of your below-average intelligence.

Never mention it again.
It's an excellent analogy and you have no intelligent comeback.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1031 of 1429 (901072)
11-04-2022 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1029 by Dredge
11-04-2022 11:45 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
What "evasion"?
Your refusal to explain your own "argument".

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Taq
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Posts: 10085
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 5.6


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Message 1032 of 1429 (901073)
11-04-2022 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1025 by Dredge
11-04-2022 11:37 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Unfortunately, it's become evident that discerning "the facts" is definitely not your forté.

I recommend you seek professional help in the form of cult-deprogramming therapy.
Still not addressing the fact of the nested hierarchy of genetic similarities.

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Taq
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Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 5.6


Message 1033 of 1429 (901074)
11-04-2022 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1027 by Dredge
11-04-2022 11:44 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
I ignore it bcoz evidence for UCD is irrelevant to my argument.
I think we already know that you consider facts to be irrelevant.
Apparently, you still don't understand how the scientific method works. We are testing the hypothesis of common descent. That hypothesis predicts that we should see a nested hierarchy of similarities. When we observe nature and see exactly what the hypothesis predicts we have a supported hypothesis. Therefore, we conclude common descent. We now have a supported theory.
That's how science works.
If you want to challenge this conclusion then you need to produce a better explanation for the nested hierarchy.

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Stile
Member
Posts: 4295
From: Ontario, Canada
Joined: 12-02-2004


Message 1034 of 1429 (901076)
11-04-2022 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1023 by Dredge
11-04-2022 11:26 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
NeVeR mEnTiOn It AgAiN.
It's okay, just ask if you have any questions.
The point is that nuts and bolts are irrevocably important to the manufacture of vehicles. Understanding this importance leads to greater vehicle technology.
The point is that UCD is irrevocably important to those genetic similarities existing. Understanding this importance leads to greater biological/medicinal technology.

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xongsmith
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From: massachusetts US
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Message 1035 of 1429 (901078)
11-04-2022 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1013 by Dredge
11-04-2022 9:27 AM


Re: UCD evidence
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!!!

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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