Coffee House Musings on Creationist Topic Proposals

You're going around in circles.The reason mammals are genetically closer to humans is because of similarities in DNA. Period. If you don't believe evolution created the genetic similarities, what effect will that have on those genetic similarities? Will the similarities increase or decrease?If you don't believe evolution created the genetic similarities, what effect will that have on vaccines? Will they stop working?

Are you high or something?

Maybe when everyone else questions what you are saying it is not them, it is you.

Oh, I get ... when cornered, act dumb.

... which has absolutely nothing to do with my argument.

You didn't answer my question:If no one believed in UCD, would those genetic similarities still exist?

Dredgings: Scientists don't work from a position of what they believe, they work from the evidence.In your hypothetical case, changing your wording to "If no one had known about UCD...", then, yes, the similarities would still exist, waiting to be discovered by scientists. But also then no one would be working on finding new medicines using DNA similarities either. They would even still be in the dark about DNA existing, let alone having similarities.

Wrong again, wrongsmith. Thousands of scientific papers begin with the Darwinist (unproven) assumption of UCD. Another example of wrongsmith making a baseless assertion. Another example of wrongsmith making a baseless assertion. Note: Please be advised that your new name is "wrongsmith".

You sir are nothing more than a troll.

So you keep saying, Theodorkic, but you have no evidence to support your claim.

I told you:I'm not "trying" in order to have to give up.
I mean... I'm just relaying simple reality to you. That's all. My name has always been Stile. If you don't understand the concept, feel free to ask questions. The analogy works quite well, as your previous questions have shown.The point is that nuts and bolts are irrevocably important to the manufacture of vehicles. Understanding this importance leads to greater vehicle technology.
The point is that UCD is irrevocably important to those genetic similarities existing. Understanding this importance leads to greater biological/medicinal technology.

Look up the definition.

Obviously, yes.In the same way, stellar parallax would still exist if no one believed in Heliocentrism. The procession in Mercury's orbit would still exist if no one believed in Relativity.What wouldn't exist if no one believed in UCD is an explanation as to why those genetic similarities fell into a nested hierarchy.

Ignoring the facts won't make them go away.

But why would those similarities produce a nested hierarchy if pixies, aliens, or fairies produced them?We can observe UCD and evolution in action in both the lab and in the wild. We observe that those mechanisms produce a nested hierarchy. A nested hierarchy is exactly what we would expect from this process, and that is exactly what we see in nature. There is no other explanation that specifically predicts that we should see this pattern of genetic similarities.

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Now, since the days of Linnæus this principle has been carefully followed, and it is by its aid that the tree-like system of classification has been established. No one, even long before Darwin's days, ever dreamed of doubting that this system is in reality, what it always has been in name, a natural system. What, then, is the inference we are to draw from it? An evolutionist answers, that it is just such a system as his theory of descent would lead him to expect as a natural system. For this tree-like system is as clear an expression as anything could be of the fact that all species are bound together by the ties of genetic relationship. If all species were separately created, it is almost incredible that we should everywhere observe this progressive shading off of characters common to larger groups, into more and more specialized characters distinctive only of smaller and smaller groups. At any rate, to say the least, the law of parsimony forbids us to ascribe such effects to a supernatural cause, acting in so whimsical a manner, when the effects are precisely what we should expect to follow from the action of a highly probable natural cause.
--George Romanes, "Scientific Evidences of Organic Evolution", 1882
The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Scientific Evidences of Organic Evolution, by George J. Romanes, M.A., LL.D., F.R.S.

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False. It is the conservation of function due to UCD and evolution that makes them useful. No such expectation is expected from other proposed processes. It also allows us to find novel human features by looking for different patterns of sequence conservation. It's the nested hierarchy that evidences UCD, not simply genetic similarities.