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Author Topic:   The Meaning Of The Trinity
ringo
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Message 557 of 1864 (899162)
10-09-2022 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 556 by candle2
10-09-2022 3:19 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
candle2 writes:
I am against any practice that is
not Biblical.
Like creationism.
I was just looking at a thread called Show me why Sunday is the day. You might be interested.

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ringo
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Message 563 of 1864 (899205)
10-10-2022 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 558 by candle2
10-09-2022 4:04 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
candle2 writes:
Sunday is simply referred to as the "first day of
the week."
Just out of curiosity, how do you know what the "first day" of the creation week was?
I can see how an extremely loose interpretation of the Old Testament could give Bishop Usher the year but how could he get it down to the month, day and even the hour? (I know there's a lot of woulda-colulda-shoulda nonsense about equinoxes, etc. but the Bible doesn't support any of that.)
It seems to me that there are vast gaps in continuity that make if impossible to say with any confidence what day is THE sabbath in the present.

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Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 569 of 1864 (899273)
10-11-2022 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 568 by candle2
10-11-2022 11:46 AM


Re: Topic Synopsis
candle2 writes:
Ringo, the Jews have kept meticulous records.
So show us the records from the year 4004 B.C.E.
candle2 writes:
The Jews have records that show which day Christ
kept.
Jesus was Jewish. He obviously kept the Sabbath (Saturday). The question is, How did HE know that the Jews were keeping the "right" day? Where are the records going back to the year 4004 B.C.E.?

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It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
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ringo
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Message 570 of 1864 (899274)
10-11-2022 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 566 by Phat
10-11-2022 10:25 AM


Re: Topic Synopsis
Phat writes:
To sabbath means to rest in Christ.
It certainly does not. "Christ" has nothing to do with it.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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Message 572 of 1864 (899288)
10-11-2022 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 565 by Dredge
10-10-2022 8:53 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
Interesting article.

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What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
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ringo
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Message 585 of 1864 (899359)
10-12-2022 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 579 by Dredge
10-11-2022 11:23 PM


Re: Topic Synopsis
Dredge writes:
If you want to believe in God, you'll find a way.
If you don't want to believe in God, you'll find a way.
Do you and Phat get your bumper-stickers at the same store?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
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ringo
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Message 595 of 1864 (899422)
10-13-2022 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 590 by candle2
10-13-2022 11:42 AM


Re: Topic Synopsis
candle2 writes:
Basic assumptions used in dating methods are
are just that, assumptions.
And you don't understand what assumptions are.
When we put a satellite in orbit, we assume that the earth is round. That's not just a wild guess. It's a well-established fact. It is important to keep it in mind when we launch a satellite but it is NOT in doubt.
candle2 writes:
If a dating technique is found to be wrong just once, none
of the results can be trusted.
Don't be silly. You don't use that standard for anything else. Have you ever heard what the carpenters say? "Measure twice, cut once." They measure twice because ANY measurement can be wrong. They measure twice to make sure there was no mistake in the first measurement. You don't hear a carpenter say, "I'm sorry, we can't build your house because the measurements are unreliable."
And radiometric dating is also done repeatedly on multiple samples for the same reason.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Message 605 of 1864 (899470)
10-14-2022 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 603 by candle2
10-14-2022 12:55 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
candle2 writes:
The beast and false prophet in Revelation 13 will be
a secular German Ruler and the Pope.
I think that ship sailed on May 8, 1945. A more obvious choice for the (entirely fictional) "beast" is a Reagan or a Trump.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 610 of 1864 (899497)
10-15-2022 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 607 by Porkncheese
10-15-2022 6:13 AM


Re: How can Jesus be God if...
Porkncheese writes:
I know there is scripture that appears to suggest that Jesus is God but there is also scripture to suggest he isn't.
Bingo. The Bible contradicts itself. You should have learned that on page one.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 611 of 1864 (899498)
10-15-2022 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 608 by Dredge
10-15-2022 6:53 AM


Re: How can Jesus be God if...
Dredge writes:
I never seen any Catholic worship Mary.
You've never heard any Catholic use the phrase, "Hail Mary"?
quote:
Hail, Mary, full of grace,
the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst women
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
Sounds a bit worshipful to me.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 614 of 1864 (899502)
10-15-2022 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 613 by AZPaul3
10-15-2022 12:08 PM


Re: How can Jesus be God if...
AZPaul3 writes:
Saint Nymphodora
That's a new one on me. It's my second favorite name now, after Cornucopia.

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What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 615 of 1864 (899503)
10-15-2022 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 612 by candle2
10-15-2022 11:59 AM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Did you memorize Hal Lindsey?
Here's another book you might like: Apocalypse Next. It's a virtual clone of The Late Great Planet Earth.
Be sure to avoid this one: Apoclypse Not. The subtitle is "Everything You Know About 2012, Nostradamus and the Rapture Is Wrong".

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Message 629 of 1864 (899528)
10-15-2022 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 621 by Phat
10-15-2022 4:05 PM


Re: efense Attorneys
Phat writes:
In essence, God serves three roles in the Courtroom. The Judge, The Prosecution and the Defense Attorney.
Not much of a Defense Attorney. He never gets anybody off, does He?
And you left out Executioner.
Your analogy reminds me of one of those hillbilly small-town speed traps.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
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Message 630 of 1864 (899529)
10-15-2022 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 628 by Dredge
10-15-2022 9:02 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Dredge writes:
Furthermore, the hypothesis that one fossil represents the evolutionary ancestor/descendant of another fossil cannot be tested.
What kind of test do you think there should be?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 650 of 1864 (899611)
10-16-2022 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 631 by Dredge
10-15-2022 10:19 PM


Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Dredge writes:
You want me to come up with a test for an hypothesis that can't be tested?
No. The fact that YOU can't come up with a test doesn't mean anything. It does suggest that you haven't put any thought or research into it.
The test is fitting it into the nested hierarchy of all living things. If it fits, that demonstrates relationships to the other organisms that it fits between.
If, on the other hand, you try to fit a winged horse into the nested hierarchy, you'll notice that there are no vertebrates with six limbs.
Dredge writes:
... that's pretty funny!
You should laugh less. It just exposes your ignorance.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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