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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Please provide one example of how ToE (the theory that all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor via the mechanism of natural selection acting on mutations) has proven useful in treating disease. The big difference is that the Theory of Evolution does indeed help us in furthering medical knowledge,Edited by Dredge, . Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
That's bullshit - none of the posters here refuted my argument back then. All those snakes did was ignore that I was arguing that ToE was useless and instead pretended that I was arguing that "principles of evolution" (such as selection acting on beneficial mutations) were useless. I never argued that "principles of evolution" were useless, because they're not. This is all just pete and repeat from Sludge Boy. We all refuted this pathetic argument more than a year ago. Those posters deliberately and dishonestly twisted my words and misrepresented my position - in other words, that bowl of spiders were liars. You were probably one of them.Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
I agree. Evolution does happen. That is a solid undeniable fact! Do you know the difference between "evolution" and ToE?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Evolution is a change in allele frequency within a population.
As for the theory of evolution, there are different versions. I will use the version I've been using for the last two months or so - the theory that all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor via the mechanism of natural selection acting on mutations.Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Please explain how ToE (the theory that all life on earth evolved from a common ancestor via the mechanism of natural selection acting on mutations)⁶ has contributed to the development of flu vaccines.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
The point is, no one needs Darwinist folklore to develop vaccines or treat disease ... the part that says all life on earth shares a common ancestor.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
No kidding.
there's a helluva lot more going on in evolution that you're leaving out.it's no wonder you have no clue what you are talking about.
The fact remains that no one can prove that they know what process produced the changes evident in the fossil record, and therefore no one can claim to know how evolution works.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
Point is, no one needs to accept the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor to develop vaccines. Point is, only in understanding the ToE do we have understanding of the vectors of disease and how to formulate vaccines to more effective use. Hypothetically, a YEC scientist could develop vaccines just as competently as a Darwinist scientist. A medical scientist doesn't need to accept Darwinist folklore (universal common ancestry) to understand and utilize the principles and mechanisms of evolution .
We know exceptionally well the forces and mechanisms that created ... the fossil record.
You can't prove it, so please stop talking delusional crap. Your discombobulation is embarrassing. I'm finding it increasing difficult to believe your claim that you're a fair-dinkum scientist. What sort of scientist claims to "know" something that he can't prove that he knows?Edited by Dredge, . Edited by Dredge, . Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
It's not a footnote reference. I don't how it got there. I used my own words.
Maybe there's a glitch in the system.Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Sorry, I don't understand any of that.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
I choose to blame you for that mistake.
Yes, we know. Can't even respond to the right poster.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Good question. I have no idea how that little number got there ... it wasn't a quote ... not that it matters.
A footnote reference! Where did that come from?What source did you steal that from?
My fragile, eggshell mind.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
The fact remains that no one can prove that they know what process produced the changes evident in the fossil record, and therefore no one can claim to know how evolution works.dwise1 writes:
It's not a lie ... it's an inescapable fact you can't prove that know what process produced the changes evident in the fossil record.
Stop repeating your stupid liesYou know what you need to do, SO DO IT! If you truly know what you are talking about, as you keep falsely claiming you do (LIAR!), then PROVE IT!
Sorry, but I'm not interested in playing your diversionary games. It seems clear to me that you refuse to face up to the truth of my argument, which is this: You can't prove that you know what process produced the changes evident in the fossil record, therefore you can't claim to know how evolution works. Stop being a stupid troll who witnesses of his stupid troll god (who is not to be confused with any actual Christian version of "God"). Is there a weakness in your character that is preventing you from accepting this obvious fact?Perhaps you are too proud to be corrected and humbled by the simple logic of the village idiot. Or perhaps your atheist faith cannot tolerate the fact that - contrary to the delusion you've been living under for so long - your Darwinist doctrine cannot be proven to be factual.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
Knowledge of the mechanisms of evolution has certainly contributed to the treatment of disease, but the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor has contributed nothing at all to the treatment of disease. It's a useless theory. ToE. It ... explains life and destroys diseases I invite you to prove me wrong by providing an example of how the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor has contribted to the treatment of disease.
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