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What we actually see is MICROEVOLUTION. Yeah, that's evolution. Animals obviously evolve - they are not unchanging. And there is no magic arbitrary limit to how much micro-evolutionary change can accumulate that would prevent it from being macroevolution.
I bet you haven't even read any of my threads about how evolution defeats evolution, have you? I dunno, I don't know off the top of my head - and I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to. But, given your track record - it is fair to assume that you are wrong. Plus, a lone delusional True Christian versus countless scientists? Yeah, no contest.
The ToE can't be shown it can only be believed. Nonsense. It's confirmed every day and has never been falsified. It's here to stay.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
That has always struck me as the funniest of the gymnastics in the creationist clown show. "Evolution is impossible because it happens much faster than you think."
... evolution defeats evolution....
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, evolution is impossible because it uses up genetic diversity.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: No, evolution is impossible because it uses up genetic diversity. You keep making really stupid claims like that but as always, reality shows you are simply wrong, massively wrong. Evolution on the Earth has been going on for billions of years and so is certainly not impossible, or unlikely, or unexpected. Evolution over billions of years is a fact just as it is a fact that there has never been a world-wide flood during the time humans have existed. And remember faith, even the Bible supports the fact that the Flood stories are simply myths. That is also supported by the fact that there are two mutually exclusive flood myths just as there are two mutually exclusive creation myths in the Bible stories. You of course are free to ignore facts and reality but your fantasies will not change either.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's really amazing how you get away with nothing but smearing the debater and asserting the contrary point of view. It's really just about all you ever do. You hardly ever address the argument itself. Amazing.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: Your argument has been defeated every time you've tried it. So stop wasting time making assertions you can't adequately support.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
I was addressing what I quoted - i.e. your claim that the only evolution is microevolution. The irony is that in order to "disprove" macroevolution you have to pretend that microevolution happened impossibly fast after the flood. No, evolution is impossible because it uses up genetic diversity. Maybe you're too young to remember but creationists used to deny microevolution too. Creation is a slippery slope.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: It's really amazing how you get away with nothing but smearing the debater and asserting the contrary point of view. It's really just about all you ever do. You hardly ever address the argument itself. Amazing. I am not "smearing the debater". I said nothing about the debater. I simply pointed out that what you post is factually wrong. It is your argument that is silly and inane, utterly false, unreasonable, ridiculous, sophomoric and it was only your asserted "argument" that I or anyone else has been addressing. The truth is still that there has never been a world-wide flood during the period of time that humans existed and that even the Bible itself shows evidence that the flood tales are meant as myth not fact just as the creation myths are simply plot devices to address import subjects to the humans that wrote the stories.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You assert that I'm wrong, you do not try to prove anything, and you do smear the debater.
My argument is excellent, too bad you haven't the brain to see it.
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edge Member (Idle past 1736 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined:
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You assert that I'm wrong, you do not try to prove anything, and you do smear the debater.
Actually, we tell you why you are wrong. The fact that you ignore contrary evidence is a failure on your part.
My argument is excellent, too bad you haven't the brain to see it.
For so many reasons stated on this thread, no. Your arguments, as you readily admit, ignore certain evidences and rely on faith alone.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
How could an argument about the strata or biological facts be from faith?
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
How could an argument about the strata or biological facts be from faith? The same way you hand-wave away all of the evidence on dating: If it disproves your beliefs you don't accept it.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I've never "hand-waved" away your dating stuff. I've said I can't answer it and I have better evidence anyway which makes the dating false. That is NOT "hand-waving."
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2136 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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I've never "hand-waved" away your dating stuff. I've said I can't answer it and I have better evidence anyway which makes the dating false. That is NOT "hand-waving." To me it is. You reject the dating evidence for reasons of faith and belief, so you just ignore all the evidence RAZD and I have posted. That's hand-waving it all away, not refuting it or researching it or anything else.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I reject it for better evidence, that is not the same thing.
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