Jesus The false prophet

Lets say my father is your boss in your company and i go and talk to the workers including you and say well the company is broke so you will all be fired soon.So when i am talking about the company being broke i give the impression that my father your boss in the bible storry god told me that the company is going to shit, right.If in fact it turns out that the company does not go borke and it lasts for 2000 years i must have lied about the state of the company, and as it turned out i had no buisnes saying that the company is borke cause its my fathers company, and he dint tell me to say anything about the company to the workers. And still he made a claim that did not come to pass so he is a false prophet like good ol deutoromy says

I think that you have a misunderstanding of what Jesus meant by the "Kingdom of God". When the Jews heard that term they would understand that God was going to empower them to overpower their enemies and return Israel to them, under Jewish power with Yahweh or His representative as King.Jesus had several things to say about that. First off He was saying that the military route was not the way to go - love your enemy - turn the other cheek - etc. He was establishing the "Kingdom of God" but it wasn’t just for Israel but for the world. It would be a Kingdom without geographical boundaries, where Jesus the servant king would be king and where its citizens would be those who signed on to carry the father's message of truth, love, peace, justice, kindness, mercy, forgiveness etc to the world.He wasn't prophesying about something that was going to happen in the future, he was prophesying about what was happening then - in the present.

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Everybody is entitled to my opinion.

Ok, yeah, you're right.It seems that Jesus would be fine with being a prophet.

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Well then that settles the matter then he did not speak for god so he is not the son of god.

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Or are you implying that in this instance he was not speaking for GOD but just throwing out lies to see if anyone would catch them. Like on his off time he was a liar but when god relay spoke to him then he would utter the word The LORD said.....

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That was rather disingenuous. Your position in the OP is that Jesus was a false prophet, not that he wasn't the son of God.Only when a prophet claims to speak for God does the test kick in. I gave you an example in Message 4. Just because a prophet is talking doesn't mean everything out of his mouth is a message from God.Also if you notice, Deuteronomy 18:22 doesn't say the prophet is false. It says he spoke presumptuously. Don't be afraid of him.Even in Deuteronomy 13 we see that the prophet's words may come true, but if he leads the people to other gods, the prophet must be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5)In the fictional book of Jonah we see that God can also change his mind depending on what the circumstances. (Jonah 3)
So Johan spoke correctly, but the people repented and God decided not to destroy them.Unlike the prophets of the OT, Jesus didn't write any books.So as I asked you before, did the author tell us that Jesus was presenting a message from God?As someone else pointed out, being wrong and lying are two different things.In Chapter 13 of the Book of Mark the author has Jesus tell Peter, James, John and Andrew that the day and hour are unknown. Whether the statement is correct or not probably depends on where one feels the kingdom of God is. Is it external or internal?

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If in fact it turns out that the company does not go borke and it lasts for 2000 years i must have lied about the state of the company, and as it turned out i had no buisnes saying that the company is borke cause its my fathers company, and he dint tell me to say anything about the company to the workers.

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You may have lied and you may not have lied. You may just have been wrong or your father changed his mind and didn't fill you in on it. There are more options than just lying.

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And still he made a claim that did not come to pass so he is a false prophet like good ol deutoromy says

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Only if he claimed the message was from God. You haven't shown evidence that he claimed he was presenting a message from God.

So where is this kingdom of god whiteout borders ?? Or is there any evidence of it ever existing???What about when he says the kinghdom of god will come with power??That sounds like he is going to march on earth whit an army of angels to kill off the infidels and leave only the mindless slaves who worship him whiteout question.

Sure i get it nowJesus the son of god the prophet of god and god himself (all at the same time), forgot to mention to his apostles:" the last thing i have just said, is not from gods mouth(my mouth) nor was i speaking to you as a prophet i was talking to you as a man, in truth i in my godly form have blocked any knowledge of the time i come to rule this world from my fleshy form and i in my godly form have not convaied any such knowledge to my fleshy prophet form i was only speaking to you in my normal fleshy form so you can take it as a wild guess. Just so there are no misunderstandings in the future I can see why this bit would be skipped from the bible

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Jesus the son of god the prophet of god and god himself (all at the same time), forgot to mention to his apostles:" the last thing i have just said, is not from gods mouth(my mouth) nor was i speaking to you as a prophet i was talking to you as a man, in truth i in my godly form have blocked any knowledge of the time i come to rule this world from my fleshy form and i in my godly form have not convaied any such knowledge to my fleshy prophet form i was only speaking to you in my normal fleshy form so you can take it as a wild guess. Just so there are no misunderstandings in the future

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I can see why this bit would be skipped from the bible

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Please show evidence from the Bible to support your conclusions.Show me that the synoptic authors presented Jesus as God.
Show me that the apostles thought Jesus was God in the synoptics.Just because you don't understand the stories of the Bible doesn't mean anything was skipped.

Him with the Word, the only-begotten of the Father, Who from all eternity exists with God, Who is God (John 1:1-18)."Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?" (14:10),John 10
28 And I give them life everlasting: and they shall not perish for ever. And no man shall pluck them out of my hand. 29 That which my Father has given me is greater than all: and no one can snatch them out of the hand of my Father. 30 I and the Father are one.

Hi frako, You get an 'F' in theology.How many of those folks do you suppose where still alive when this took place?

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Mark 11:9 And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:

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11:10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.

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Jesus came into Jerusalem in a parade and was hailed king by those that were there.The establishment rejected Jesus as king and crucified Him 4 days later so you and I could have an opportunity to receive remission of our sins.So no He did not fail. There was those alive that he had spoke too a few days earlier when He made His triumphant entry as King of the Jews as pilate declared with the sign on the cross.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Um so he came with power how ??And one would think that when the kingdom of god comes it was here to stay or was it there just for that day ? Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Essentially it's his world wide church, empowered by His Holy Spirit. I think that I answered this in my last post. Here it is again. Jesus brought a new way to have power and rule. His way of ruling is to serve. His route to power is love. However, just as the Hebrews more often than not messed it up in the time of the OT, the church more often than not messes it up today.

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Everybody is entitled to my opinion.

Just a thought. Isn't this the kinda of thing that you complain about the scientific atheists doing. When you make assertians in their field you claim foul when they use condescending language. OK, theology is more your area than it is frako's and when he asserts something you use the same kind of condescending language that gets used against you in the scientific area.Frako doesn't claim to be any kind of expert in theology and for that matter is dealing, very well actually, in a second language.Don't mean to try and be clever but it's something to maybe think about.

That would be the roman catholic version right the other churches are imposers and usurpers to his church.That actually became a church some 200-400 years later kinda late for the not tasting death part wouldn't you agree??
Before that time the church had no power and its members where hunted down as pagans who would not worship the son of god you know the roman emperor. The power of love and servitude wasent quite felt by other religions at the time of the curch becoming the state religion of Rome almost immediately the church started to hunt down pagan worshipers. So no power of love for the church to be the one to come with power.And as i mentioned the church was formed to late to account for the many shall not taste death part.

Dont worry i don't mind if i get an F in Theology, it kinda dosen't show on the report card