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Author Topic:   Hate the sin but love the person...except when voting?
frako
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Message 267 of 391 (597405)
12-21-2010 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 264 by purpledawn
12-21-2010 9:53 AM


Re: Good of the Many or Individual Hatred
When a Christian votes against gay marriage, is it driven by hatred of the individuals or the perceived sin?
Ocourse it is hatred of the individuals. You cannot do anything to stop "sin" tough you can punish the individual.
Lets take it this way if your god would not have wanted sin he would not give us free will, in essence you are taking their free will.
The only action you could take to hate the sin but love the person if you would go to a gay individual and try to tell him and convince him he is sinning and he should stop because you love him and you do not want him to go to hell.
If you take away the option of the individual to commit sin it would be like castration after you make your 2.1 kids hating the penis and hating more than 2.1 kids.
Or burnig a heretic after he repented so he will go to heven and not to hell. Hating the mans free will and hating the sin it brings.
Killing your children after they are baptisted so they go to heaven hating the children's ability to sin and hating the sin.
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Message 290 of 391 (597440)
12-21-2010 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by purpledawn
12-21-2010 5:11 PM


Re: Good of the Many or Individual Hatred
Not condoning the sin. They consider marriage to be sacred. They attach it to their religion.
Ok sure if they want a sacred marriage they can have it in their own church, tough the marriage that my state recognizes is the state marriage the one preformed by a state official.

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frako
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Message 310 of 391 (597520)
12-22-2010 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 307 by iano
12-22-2010 9:44 AM


Re: No one can give a reason
Loving someone doesn't mean condoning their sin or supporting the propagation of it.
Yes Buddha loves you too but he does not condone your habit of eating meat so it is time to stop meat production all over the world.
The grate spaghetie monster loves you too but he does not condone your use of the internet you have not been blessed by him to do so so stop right now
Using ones religion to stop people from what they are doing because it does not suit your bible is idiotic.Unless you want every religion to have that right.

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Message 362 of 391 (597608)
12-22-2010 5:56 PM


ROFL
OMG you religious gay haters are totally insane.
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frako
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Message 371 of 391 (597622)
12-22-2010 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 363 by ICdesign
12-22-2010 6:11 PM


A picture of a couple birds with ruffled feathers doesn't prove a single thing.
And i had a gay dog
my guess is you do not go out much

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frako
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Message 376 of 391 (597633)
12-22-2010 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 373 by ICdesign
12-22-2010 7:37 PM


I have a picture of a moose humping a buffalo statue that I can't figure how to transfer to here.
right click copy image location, and then put it in between img and /img incased in the same thing as you use when you quote.
Animals have instinct driven impulses that they aren't sure how to express when the urges are powerful. To associate this drive with human homosexuality is a mistake in my opinion.
So do humans it is all chemestry when you find someone you are attracted too the first thing your body does is sniff for the feromones that person gives off.
Hormones are a big part in our decision making, for example it often accrues that a mother killed her child and then regrets the act the reason is that her hormone levels where screwing with her thought process.
That is why we cannot rationalize love cause it is an ANIMAL THING
Gays get the same vibes you get when you see/ get to know a person you find attractive the only difference is that they get those vibes only from the same sex while you only get them from the opposite sex.
It is not like they want to fall in love with the same sex. It is the same procceess that you cannot control, and it makes you fall in love with who you fall in love with.

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frako
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Message 378 of 391 (597635)
12-22-2010 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 352 by ICdesign
12-22-2010 4:33 PM


Re: marriage not sin is the topic
My valid reason is that homosexuality is a perversion.
So no one that is "perverted" should marry.
So "interacial" marriges are also "perverted" and should not be allowed
Some people have a thing for "little people" they should not marry them because it is perverted only people of the same hight should marry.
All the people who marry young husbands or wives while they are old are also perverted and should not be allowed to marry.
Or does only what your bible calls perverted or an abomination actually perverted if so then why all the fuss about the pedophile priests there is nothing about pedophilia being perverted in the bible.
And again if mix religion with law you open the door to other religions doing the same.

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frako
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Message 390 of 391 (597728)
12-23-2010 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 388 by Theodoric
12-23-2010 9:28 AM


Re: "I never engaged in this kind of thing before..."
Happy hijacked pagan holiday to you too.
Veseli decembeer vsem
Happy december to all
I dunno about your countries but December is the month when our cops run out of places to put people till they are sober. And yes the whole month, the drinking slowly starts around the first and progressively rises to obscene leveled around the 25th keeps steady till the 2nd of January and slowly dies out around the 10th.

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