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Contradictions between Genesis 1-2

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bluescat48
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Message 21 of 308 (437747)
12-01-2007 7:19 AM 		Reply to: Message 20 by Force
12-01-2007 5:00 AM

Re: Sunday School Teachers
Yes, which most Christians argue is evidence of the Trinity. After all, when God says, "let us make man in our image," who is the "us" and the "our?"
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Secondly, Elohim and YHWH is the same thing, just as Adonai, El Shaddai, HaShem are different names for the same Being-- which we refer to in English as, God. That would be like saying Jehova and Yahweh are actually two different Gods, when in reality, they are different names for the same God. Or worse, like saying Yahweh and God are two different Beings rather than two different names for the same entity.
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Keep your sunday school shit out of this debate. It offers no evidence. The evidence I have is simple. Elohim means GOD. YHWH ELOHIM means LORD God or if you to disrespect the Jews; Jehovah God.
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YHWH (JHVH) & Elohim are the same entity but from different sources, written at different times.
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12-01-2007 5:30 PM 		Reply to: Message 23 by Force
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Re: Sunday School Teachers
Yah·wist (ywst) also Yah·vist (-vst)
n.
The putative author of the earliest sources of the Hexateuch in which God is consistently referred to by the Tetragrammaton.The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000
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E*lo"hist (?), n. The writer, or one of the writers, of the passages of the Old Testament, notably those of the Pentateuch, which are characterized by the use of Elohim instead of Jehovah, as the name of the Supreme Being; -- distinguished from Jehovist. S. Davidson.
- Webster's Unabridged Dictionary (1913
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Message 63 of 308 (438281)
12-03-2007 5:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 61 by ringo
12-03-2007 3:51 PM

In fact, it's the literalists trying to cover up the contradictions who devalue the Bible. If you truly value the Bible, take it as it is. Don't idolize it as something perfect that it isn't.
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Too bad they can't understand this.
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Message 89 of 308 (438435)
12-04-2007 4:22 PM 		Reply to: Message 76 by Creationist
12-04-2007 12:44 PM

Re: On text
Not entirely true. The Bible tells us who the authors are in the Books, except for a few. We have names and in many instances the life story of the author. The ones that don't clearly tell us, are usually known by tradition handed down through the centuries. You, on the other hand, have nothing but conjecture and speculation. Yet, somehow, your information is supposed to be more reliable than mine.
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Where does the Bible say this?
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12-06-2007 1:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 120 by New Cat's Eye
12-06-2007 10:29 AM

Re: Thank you and God bless both of you
You should try reading it without expectations and without presumptions about god. Just read it.
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I have and that is one reason I reject it.
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12-06-2007 3:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 124 by Force
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Re: Thank you and God bless both of you
It is at least as far back as message 110
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12-15-2007 7:49 PM 		Reply to: Message 236 by purpledawn
12-15-2007 4:58 PM

Re: Validated
The priestly writing probably reflects the change in how they viewed the world at the time it was written.
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This is the most logical reason for the difference that I have ever heard. The Yahvist source (Gen1) is much older than the the priestly source of Gen2. It would seem logical that the beliefs at different times would differ.
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