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Author Topic:   Contradictions between Genesis 1-2
EighteenDelta
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Message 10 of 308 (437557)
11-30-2007 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Hyroglyphx
11-30-2007 12:37 PM


Nemsis Juggernaut writes:
What are you talking about? Are you joking? Seriously...
"And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."
It says that God the man (singular), and then, just like in the first chapter, God made him a helper, the female, because it is not good for man to be alone.
Where is the disparity?
genesis 1:27 writes:
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
then in
genesis 2:21-23 writes:
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
I believe that is what he was trying to say. I can understand his point, not sure I totally agree with you or him.
I think the changing order of creation is more convincing of multiple sources syncretized into a single story.
Nemsis Juggernaut writes:
No, like I said, one is a synopsis and the other is detailed. There are no actual changes to anything. The only thing different is the brevity.
Gen 1:1 earth and sky (day not specified)
Gen 1:3-5 light and dark (day 1)
Gen 1:6-8 firmament and waters (day 2)
Gen 1:9-10 water and dry land (day 3)
Gen 1:11-12 plants/herbs (still day 3)
Gen 1:14-19 sun and moon and stars (day 4)
Gen 1:20-23 everything in the waters and everything in the sky (day 5)
Gen 1:24-26 All the creatures on the land (day 6)
Gen 1:27 Man AND Woman (ends day 6)
Gen 2:7 makes his dust man and breathes life into him. (assuming this is day 6 recap)
Gen 2:18-19 God makes all beasts of the field and fowl of the air to bring before Adam (somehow forgetting he made fowl the day before, on day 5 and that he had created the beasts of the fields earlier that day)I thought I had short term memory issues, what were we talking about again?
Gen 2:21 God makes woman from the rib of Adam (again forgetting he had already made woman at the same time he made man)
Thats not an issue of brevity, its a fundamental change in the order of creation from one story to the next.
-x
Edited by EighteenDelta, : different orders

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EighteenDelta
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Message 16 of 308 (437636)
11-30-2007 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Hyroglyphx
11-30-2007 6:09 PM


Re: Contradiction vs omission
So I guess this means you aren't going to address the scriptural inconsistencies provided? It is even acceptable to acknowledge that you don't have an explanation, I can respect that as at least honest, if you don't just ignore it or assert that it's just an issue of brevity.
-x

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EighteenDelta
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Message 50 of 308 (438225)
12-03-2007 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Creationist
12-03-2007 12:58 PM


Re: On text
In the first account, fowl are created on the fifth day. Beasts of the field are created on the sixth day, but before humans. The supposed "more detailed account of day six," has god creating the 'fowl of the air' and 'beasts of the land' after humans and before woman. You continue to fail to address that glaring inconsistency.
side by side chronology posted earlier by myself.
You obviously are also using terms you fail to understand, such as 'straw man argument'. It's transparent how much you don't know what this means.
-x

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