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Author Topic:   There is an appalling lack of historical evidence backing the Bible's veracity
Buzsaw
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Message 58 of 306 (479294)
08-26-2008 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by cavediver
08-24-2008 6:53 AM


Cavediver writes:
And let me point out that the BAR is an evangelical Christian publication - this is no secular, atheistic propaganda - they are desperate for historical evidence to back up the Bible.
BAR was founded in 1974 by Anthony Hands and David Walker for British conventional archeological science constituents and all interested in archeology; not by or for the evangelical community.
I subscribed to it for a year or two when it first came out. It's no friend of evangelicals perse. Regarding it's reliability:
this is how I regard it.
And BAR does indeed offer its readers the latest "controversies"; but for the most part, BAR takes sides in such a way that the reader knows where its board is tilting even as essays are read. As a magazine devoted to the promulgation of archaeological information, perhaps it should abstain from bias (insofar as this is possible, of course, for any of us).
The title of this essay is a bit misleading, I must confess. BAR is neither simply friend nor foe of biblical and archaeological studies. It is both at times. It is friend because it offers beautifully illustrated examples of archaeological artifacts, and it is foe because it too quickly and too gullibly accepts what it is sometimes deceptively given. It is friend because it offers some of the very best in critical, yet accessible, scholarship, and it is foe because it too often denigrates those scholars with whom it disagrees. BAR is friend and foe: it clearly has an ax to grind. Read it if you want to see some fine pictures and illustrations, but read it with care and with the understanding that its view is slanted to support a particular perspective. By no means is BAR objective, and that is its greatest failing.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 64 of 306 (479547)
08-28-2008 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by Percy
08-28-2008 8:27 AM


Re: Corroborative External Observational Evidence
Rahvin writes:
It's the extraordinary claims where the Bible breaks down. Fundamentalists typically use examples of historically accurate parts of the bible to claim that the Bible in its entirety is a historically valid set of documents, and this is plainly silly.
You mean extraordinary claims like the the Exodus and Dead sea crossing evidenced at the Nuweiba beach site on the Dead Sea/Gulf of Aqaba along with corroborative evidence in the region relative to that Biblical account?
You mean extraordinary claims like the corroborative prophesies of many OT and NT prophets relative to the nation of Israel being scattered globally and to return after lengthy Gentile occupation as well as it again blossoming after centuries of desolation as per Ezekiel 36-39 and others?
You mean extraordinary claims like a latter day prophecy that all nations globally will some day have a mandated monetary system of numbers and marks as is emerging upon us as per Revelation 13?
You mean extraordinary claims like the armies of the world being drawn into the Middle east relative to the nation of Israel and the contention of who owns the city of Jerusalem as per the OT prophet Zechariah and others?
You mean extraordinary claims like a time when all nations will have the ability to view an event at one location simultaneously and that all nations will view and even worship via a speaking image as per Revelation 13?
The above are corroborative, observational and externally evidenced reasons for the Bible's veracity.
Abe: I intended this message to be a response for Rahvin but mistakenly linked it to Percy's message. I suppose it will serve to address both messages.
Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 67 of 306 (479572)
08-28-2008 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Brian
08-28-2008 10:55 AM


Re: Corroborative External Observational Evidence
Brian writes:
You still swallowing Wyatt's crap?
You mean Wyatt's discovery corroborated after Wyatt's death by Swedish Dr (abe: Lennart) Moller's scientific research? A palatible swallow, indeed.
Of course then there's those other corroborating items listed in my message, all of which corroborate one another relative to evidence for Biblical veracity. Not to mention that significant other observational evidences not cited in my message are supportive to Biblical veracity.
Edited by Buzsaw, : as noted in text

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 69 of 306 (479577)
08-28-2008 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Dawn Bertot
08-28-2008 11:30 AM


Re: Is anyone unbiased?
Bertot writes:
One of the things that I see happening here is that the words "absolute proof" is simply getting replaced by the word "evidence". Absolute proof is one thing and "evidence" is quite another.
I appreciate your message, Bertot. As for absolute proof, of course, no ideology has a corner on that. Corroborative evidences serve to substantiate the veracity of ideology. Hopefully that's what we're all about here.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 144 of 306 (480265)
09-01-2008 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Brian
08-28-2008 1:59 PM


Re: Jesus's Two Parents
Brian writes:
Seriously though, Jesus only had one human parent, the other was supposed to be God.
1. Legally, Jesus had two parents; a step father and a mother.
2. God views married couples as one flesh, one reason why he abhors adultery and fornication.
Edited by Buzsaw, : failed to preview for error

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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