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Author Topic:   Method of Madness: post-hoc reasoning and confirmation bias.
Loudmouth
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Message 16 of 253 (113619)
06-08-2004 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Gilgamesh
06-07-2004 8:24 PM


Re: Hmmm. No takers?
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I saw the x-rays of Dom's shoulder clearly showing shattered bone fragments. I was also present when doctors worked on his ghastly back wound. And, of course I was present 6 months later when his shoulder demonstrated phenomenal recovery.
6 months is still a long enough period for the body to repair itself. I see no miracle here.
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Dom's symptons for his first cardiac event were pains in the chest and down the left arm, as well as breathing difficulties. He nevertheless discharged himself from casualty in a matter of hours with no further treatment.
The blockage in his cardiac artery cleared itself. This happens quite a bit. Again, nothing supernatural about this.
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The second cardiac event had similar syptoms, confirmed with a blood test that indicated heart muscle damage (the blood enzyme reading associated with a dying heart due to blodd flow restriction: it was because of this blood test Dom was admitted immediatly to emergency casualty at hospital). Dom also left the hospital within an hour and sought no further medical attention.
Same as above. The problem is obviously getting worse, given that CK and probably LDH serum levels were high. A miracle or fulfilled prayer would have been the lack of a second heart attack and the removal of the blockage. What do you think it is going to take to prevent a third heart attack? Prayer or angioplasty?
Added in edit: I wasn't very clear on what an arterial blockage was. Within the artery, a plaque will form which is comprised of cholesterol and other lipids/proteins. This causes a narrowing of the artery. If a small blood clot is flowing through the artery it may become lodged in the artery in the area where the plaque has formed. If this blockage continues for long periods of time, sections of heart tissue downstream of the artery will die and be replaced with scar tissue, or even worse the heart stops altogether. However, the clot can clear itself and move past the plaque, lodging itself in a much smaller artery farther downstream where the effected area is much, much smaller. Hope that clears things up.
This message has been edited by Loudmouth, 06-08-2004 04:41 PM

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Loudmouth
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Message 232 of 253 (120891)
07-01-2004 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Hangdawg13
07-01-2004 2:08 PM


Re: Ok an athiests turn then
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The Hebrew is a very precise language. They say in 5 words what we say in 10 and have more meaning in it than we do.
Actually, Hebrew is less precise in it's grammar than english is. Therefore, it is easier to take words and make them into a sentence within Hebrew. I am not saying that you are right or wrong about the importance of the geneology, just pointing out what I remember as accurate. If I remeber correctly, the insertion of grammar was left up to the reader when reading Hebrew. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me.
Also, Schrafinator made a very good point about some of the names being left out. You claim that the flood was interrupted by the flood, yet these names are still part of the geneology regardless if there was a flood or not. Removing these names seems suspicious to me.
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But you can use the Bible to prove it's divinely inspired by prophecy that shows it is an "integrated message system from outside our time domain".
If I was able to play the same trick with a driving manual would that make the Ford Company a divinely inspired automaker?

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