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NAMBLA - North American Man Boy Love Association.Didn't you get the flier in the mail?

Hmmm, although I think the number of breast augmentation surgeries indicate that US men prefer (or perhaps women think men prefer) C-cup breasts or bigger.This seems to be especially true in US erotica where nearly every major adult film star has had some sort of breast augmentation to increase her bust size - frequently to sickeningly gargantuan proportions.

Your data please. It seems to me that men's tastes vary from era to era and culture to culture. You aren't going to find too many full breasted, shapely-hipped girls in Japan and China. Western men no longer seem enamored with the Rubenesque vision of femininity espoused several centuries ago.Even today I have seen more 'barely eighteen' spam adds than I thought were possible and those skinny, flat-chested, narrow-hipped, chicks are more androgynous than anything else.

Hmm, well the major commercial stars were primarily the ones too which I was referring; but while I agree the breast pendulum is beginning to swing back towards 'natural' breasts, I think a review of the AVN awards makes it clear that the vast majority of those women have had breast augmentation. I am a victim of 'one man's meat is another man's poison' here. Yes, I agree with you that breast sizes into the JJJ, HHH range are a niche market. I guess I should have said 'in my opinion they have been inflated to sickeningly large proportions' as I think a woman who has had her A cup pumped up to double D (the most common size in porn I believe) is sickening. They look more like skin covered water balloons than breasts. No kidding. Have you seen Goldie Hawn, Melanie Griffith, or Meg Ryan lately? Good lord.This message has been edited by custard, 06-28-2004 04:15 AM

Good info. I have read similar documents. I take it then when you were referring to 'shapely hips and breasts' you meant symmetrical?Even this link says:

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Standards for body size vary between cultures,

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which was what I was getting at.

Which you demonstrate admirably I might add.Your views regarding human sexuality are amazingly naive and backward. For example you write: [quote] I am sure homosexuality is not exactly 100% treference, but often as close as some nerdies get to interpersonal sexual contacts. I mean, a long time, 13-28, that is 15 years before the economic considerations make marriage possible today for some people. That is a long wait while masterbating and watching the girls all chase down the dreamy guys that know how to get them interested. [/qs]Are you serious? Since when has the 'economic considerations' of marriage held anyone back from getting married. Especially when face with your alternative of 15 years of masturbation? Do you really think people turn gay because they can't make enough money to get married and they are simply tired of jerking off every night?In your own words: get real.

Khofu,Is this a poetry slam? Is this really what you want? Cuz I can slam with the best of them. Don't make me subject this board to the hackneyed stylings of Custard.

ha ha ha ha! That's exactly what came to my mind as well!

Oh my goodness, the dirty sanchez is a freaking joke. Who actually does this? Is there a whole slew of Dirty Sanchez videos 1 through 15 that I have somehow missed at the video store? Where are they located? By the Dutch Oven videos?And of course there is consent. If I tried to give any partner I've ever had a DS, they'd slap my hand into my face and break my nose. What woman would subject herself to that without consent? Yeah, I can tell poor Jenna Jameson is so degraded. She's degraded all the way to the bank - like the other porn stars.Women CHOOSE to perform sex for money. No one forces them to do this, that is called rape and it is illegal. Furthermore, MEN perform the exact same types of acts as women do, for money, and I don't hear you lamenting their exploitation.This message has been edited by custard, 06-28-2004 05:49 AM

Yeah, I'll agree with that. I don't have actual stats and DD might be pushing it - especially now, as you pointed out, that the trend is not to go as big.

Are there full color photos in that?

That is faulty logic. Men go to strip clubs and prostitutes because they offer something that men can't obtain through traditional relationships, not because men don't want to have traditional relationships.How does your conclusion support the fact that in many strip clubs you can find couples enjoying the entertainment? How does it support the fact that many patrons are married or involved in relationships with women? Why would men bother with relationships at all if they were only interested in doing so for the purpose of having sex?I'm curious to know what evidence, or even experience, you have that might support such an outrageous claim.Lets also look at some statistics based on the US census of 2000:A-# men over 18: 100,994,367
B-# married men: 54,493,232
c-# unmarried men living with hetero partner: 4,881,377# men over 18 living who don't live with women as part of a marriage or hetero partnership = A-(B+C) = 41,619,758 or 41%.So if men don't like women, except for sex, why does 59% of the US male population co-habitate with, or are married to women?edited to add statsThis message has been edited by custard, 06-28-2004 05:52 PM

Good point. And I would also like to challenge the notion that a 'facial,' or a man ejaculating on a woman's face, is a an inherently degrading act.I submit that, in general, facials are not performed because they intend to degrade or demean women, but rather that the male actor is shown ejaculating because it is 'proof' that the sexual act has been completed. While there are some female ejaculation erotica out there, one must admit it is much easier to visually depict a man's orgasm than a woman's.This is why men are shown ejaculating as the culmination of the act - not because the act itself existed only to pleasure the man.Why the face? Well not every sexual encounter ends in a facial, the male actor usually just pulls out and ejaculates wherever he happens to be at the moment. However, because oral sex is considered so visually stimulating, it is common that the male climaxes while receiving oral sex. Naturally the result is a facial since it combines the visual stimulation of oral sex with the visual proof of climax.I am not arguing that every facial ever portrayed is not meant to be degrading, I am merely arguing that I do not believe that it evolved solely for that purpose; but, rather, as a matter of circumstance as I described above.PS - holmes, saw 1984 recently. Great adaptation. Also, you might find the stats I added to my previous post in this thread interesting.This message has been edited by custard, 06-28-2004 06:13 PM

In all the hubub, I missed the two questions entirely.1- I don't know. What do you think an adverse effect of internet porn would be? I don't think a child would grow up to become a rapist or pedophile merely from viewing pornography. Is that what you mean?2- Regulate? Perhaps not. Educate? Certainly. It starts at home. I would hope that any child of mine feels comfortable enough to discuss this subject with me. I probably would use parental filters, and I probably would restrict internet usage up to a certain age, but I would also expect to have a very frank discussion with my child as soon as he/she is exposed to pornography.

edited for banality...This message has been edited by custard, 06-29-2004 01:03 PM