Intelligent Design has no Place in the Classroom of Science

Note the difference between "currently" and "potentially". It is an important distinction.

As best we can tell, it is also not potentially possible to tell, and it is the absence of a potential falsification that leads people to deny that it is science.It isn't currently possible to falsify the claim that our sun will become a red giant after a few billion years. But it is potentially possible -- all we need to do is migrate to a safe distance and wait for a few billion years.

As currently formulated, I don't think there could be a test. It's all philosophy, no science.Could there be empirically testable procedures for determining design? Maybe, but such procedures would probably show that evolved things are very different from designed things.

I certainly agree that ID should not be taught as science.I don't completely agree with the statement in the topic title. It seems to me that a biology teacher should be able to take a small amount of time to discuss ID, and to explain to the class why it is not science.

I am a mathematician. The idea "that Evolution cannot be substantiated by mathematics" is just silly. Mathematics is not in the business of substantiating empirical science. You might just as well say that Evolution cannot be substantiated by playing music. What does that even mean? I notice how you slip from "improbability" to "impossible." Maybe you need that kind of jumping to conclusions to get any support at all for creationism. There is solid evidence for evolution. There is no evidence at all for creation. Evolution is an account of the diversity of life. It does not address the question of how life came into existence. Most biologists will agree that the question of how life came into existence is still an open question.

The ordinary non-biological meaning of "evolution" is change over time. In any chemical reaction, there is change over time. Thus chemical evolution is regularly observed, and is as near certain as anything physical can be.

Rusting is chemical evolution.If you mean something different, then it is up to you to define your terms.This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 02-28-2006 11:14 PM

On the contrary, evolution celebrates the creativity of biological systems.