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Author Topic:   Intelligent Design has no Place in the Classroom of Science
nator
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Message 17 of 203 (282060)
01-27-2006 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by pianoprincess*
01-27-2006 9:25 PM


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After all, evoltion is not observeable and therefor would have to qualify as something other science too...
two problems here...
1) Evolution has most definitely been observed to occur both in the lab and in the field, so you are wrong there.
2) A phenomena does not have to be directly observable to be scientific. Inferences are made from the evidence all the time. In fact, pretty much all of science is inferred.
Not a single person has ever directly observed an electron. We have only inferred their existence by very indirect experimental means.
Does this mean that The Atomic Theory of Matter isn't science?
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nator
Member (Idle past 2200 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 19 of 203 (282067)
01-27-2006 9:56 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
01-27-2006 9:39 PM


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Evolution has not been observed. Change in frequency of alleles in populations has been observed, but not evolution (beyond microevolution of course).
"Evolutution" and "change in alelle frequencies in populations over time" are exactly the same thing, Faith.
Regarding "micro" evolution, there is absolutely no difference in mechanism between "micro" and "macro" evolution.
If you believe there is some barrier that prevents the accumulation of many small changes in a population such that it is impossible that the 100,000th generation, given selection pressures, will be very different from the population it arose from, perhaps you can start a new thread to explain it.
You might earn a Nobel Prize if you can document it.
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