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Author Topic:   Does Darwinism Equal "No God"?
arachnophilia
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Message 75 of 298 (270267)
12-17-2005 4:02 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Funkaloyd
12-17-2005 3:24 AM


really tired of this kind of misuse
Heard of Occam's Razor?
named for sir william of ockham, a mathematician, who noted that (in mathematics) statistically small variables bear little to no significant outcome on the equation, and thus can me simplified out for most purposes.
this, of course, is fine if you only require a certain degree of accuracy in your predictions. it also is somewhat contradicted by chaos theory, which describes how insignificant variables can snowball.
can you imagine occam's razor being used against evolution? it's pretty easy, actually. the difference in the frequency of heritable features from one generation to the next is insignificant at best. therefore change can be excluded from the equation. that pretty much shoots down evolution, doesn't it?
Your Christian God unnecessarily complicates things, at least more so than deism or atheism.
i strongly beg to differ. the simplest explanation for anything is "god did it." no "how" or "why." just "god did it." i propose that you explain the theory of evolution in less than three words. i bet you can't do it.
"god did it" wins again.
the simplest explanation is frequently not the best. rather, occams razor tends to describe the tendency in science to favor the more elegant and less over-complicated models for predictions, based on similar predicted outcomes. it's sort of the affirmitive action of scientific theory, not a sweeping principle that defines all of science in favor of simple-mindedness. and even that is something of a misapplication.
god is not a mathematical variable, and whether or not a god exists, i think, would be pretty significant by definition. an insignificant god would not be the "christian god."

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arachnophilia
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Message 80 of 298 (270362)
12-17-2005 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Funkaloyd
12-17-2005 4:28 AM


Re: really tired of this kind of misuse
No, I can't. But I think that I can do naturalism justice with: "Things just are."
no, that's not right. because naturalism is about a search for natural explanations, something your description leaves out.
the point is that it's not a proper use of occam's razor.

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