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Theodoric
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Message 1246 of 1429 (903285)
12-07-2022 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1244 by Dredge
12-07-2022 7:40 PM


Re: UCD evidence
You can't just make claims you need evidence to support those claims.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Dredge
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Message 1247 of 1429 (903286)
12-07-2022 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1246 by Theodoric
12-07-2022 9:36 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Theodorkic writes:
You can't just make claims you need evidence to support those claims.
The Cambrian Explosion alone makes a mockery of the superstition of UCD. But Darwinoid scientists dismiss that inconvenient truth bcoz it doesn't fit their preferred myth.
When dishonesty enters science you know it ain't science anymore, but lying propaganda invented by con-men.

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xongsmith
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Message 1248 of 1429 (903287)
12-07-2022 11:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1247 by Dredge
12-07-2022 11:00 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredgings:
The Cambrian Explosion alone makes a mockery of the superstition of UCD.
No it doesn't. Get your head on straight.
The rate of speciation from whichever set of organisms are present at a particular time from the UCD can vary all over the place and has.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Dredge
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Message 1249 of 1429 (903288)
12-08-2022 1:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1248 by xongsmith
12-07-2022 11:41 PM


Re: UCD evidence
wrongsmith writes:
The rate of speciation from whichever set of organisms are present at a particular time from the UCD can vary all over the place and has.
You Darwinoids just make crap up as you go along. Such con-men.

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ringo
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Message 1250 of 1429 (903297)
12-08-2022 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1220 by Dredge
12-06-2022 11:59 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Do you think I take the Genesis account of creation literally?
All we can know is what you tell us. And you keep saying things like, ".. an atheist claiming to know that God had no reason to create a nested hierarchy..."
You seem to believe in God, and you admit to being Catholic, and you take stupid creationist positions, so it's reasonable assumption that you're a stupid creationist who believes the Genesis account.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1251 of 1429 (903298)
12-08-2022 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1223 by Dredge
12-07-2022 12:31 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
You didn't answer my question.
And you didn't answer mine: Why don't science deniers like creationists and flat-earthers produce any scientific breakthroughs?
Dredge writes:
The greatest scientist in history - Isaac Newton...
Not hardly.
Dredge writes:
... was a creationist.
But he didn't deny evolution - or any other science. He said that he had accomplished what he did because he stood on the shoulders of giant - and if Darwin had been alive at the time, Newton would most likely have recognized him as one of those giants.
You, unlike Newton, denigrate science and scientists every chance you get.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1252 of 1429 (903299)
12-08-2022 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1231 by Phat
12-07-2022 9:20 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Phat writes:
My point was that you can't believe in someone before they were born.
But you DO believe that Jesus existed before He was born.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1253 of 1429 (903300)
12-08-2022 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1238 by Phat
12-07-2022 1:18 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
This superstition includes the hilarious belief that humans and potatoes, for example, evolved from the same organism.
Well, you have more potato in you than most of us.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1254 of 1429 (903301)
12-08-2022 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1242 by Phat
12-07-2022 1:32 PM


Re: Evilutionists vs Creotards
Phat writes:
My only beef with "scientists" is when they try and prove that Jesus never existed.
There is no need to "prove" that Jesus never existed, no more than there is a need to prove that leprechauns don't exist. Where there is no evidence, the default is that it didn't happen.
But you don't care about the truth of whether ot not Jesus existed. Your thinking is exactly like the creationists: cling to your superstitions despite all the evidence.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
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Message 1255 of 1429 (903302)
12-08-2022 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1247 by Dredge
12-07-2022 11:00 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
The Cambrian Explosion alone makes a mockery of the superstition of UCD.
Even your creationism is behind the times. The so-called "Cambrian explosion" has been explained six ways from Sunday.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Taq
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Message 1256 of 1429 (903313)
12-08-2022 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1244 by Dredge
12-07-2022 7:40 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Hilarious. It's amazing how many people believe that Darwinoid superstition ... an atheist fairy tale foisted on the gullible masses by atheist scientists.
Anyone who reads this thread will see that all you have is mockery, and a complete inability to address the evidence that has been presented.

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Dredge
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Message 1257 of 1429 (903371)
12-08-2022 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1241 by Taq
12-07-2022 1:26 PM


Taq writes:
It can be tested by measuring phylogenetic signal in shared DNA sequences. 
Anyone who thinks they know how "early life" evolved Message 1133 is delusional ... or worse.
Darwinoid scientists are amongst the most egregious bs-artists and con-men on the planet.

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Message 1258 of 1429 (903383)
12-09-2022 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1257 by Dredge
12-08-2022 9:09 PM


Dredge writes:
Anyone who thinks they know how "early life" evolved Message 1133 is delusional ... or worse.

Darwinoid scientists are amongst the most egregious bs-artists and con-men on the planet.
So you can't address the evidence we are presenting?

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Dredge
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Message 1259 of 1429 (903417)
12-10-2022 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1138 by AZPaul3
11-23-2022 6:19 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
I want to know how the theory of UCD has made a practical contribution to medical or biological science.
APauling writes:
Then go comb the literature you lazy dumb shit. The answers are there.
You say the "answers are there", yet you can't provide even one example of how the theory of UCD has made a practical contribution to medical or biological science. That's APauling.
All you have to offer is a bare assertion. Therefore I've no other choice but to conclude that you're just one more mendacious Darwinist con-man. Sorry.
If you want to know why and how UCD informes evolution, medical science and biology ...
I've yet to find UCD informing medical science and operational biology of anything useful. I don't think UCD informs anyone of anything... it just a bedtime story invented by atheists.

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Dredge
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Message 1260 of 1429 (903418)
12-10-2022 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1140 by AZPaul3
11-23-2022 6:44 PM


Re: UCD Is Not The Issue.
What a rant. Forget to take your medication again?

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