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Faith 
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Message 614 of 1309 (740556)
11-05-2014 6:18 PM
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11-05-2014 6:17 PM


Re: Houston mayor

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Message 617 of 1309 (740562)
11-05-2014 6:53 PM
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11-05-2014 6:44 PM


Re: Houston mayor
The irregularities were trumped up by Feldman, the City something or other, AttorneyI think but the woman responsible for counting signatures stopped counting after nineteen thousand because she'd validated the necessary percentage if those to inow that the fifty five thousand submitted would contain the same percentage of validated signatures. Only seventeen thousand were needed, they got fifty five thousand. Feldman just invented an excuse to disqualify them out of thin air. To disqualify that many show fraud. The excuse that the language was too broad is ridiculous. They took out the word "sermon" as if that would make a difference. But just a few days before that the mayor had tweeted that sermons are fair game if there is anything political in them, so we know the word "sermon" was not the issue. But there is no excuse at all to subpoena the opinions of a pastor for objecting to her insane ordinance. This is sheer political harassment. Reminds lots of us of how Nazi Germany operated against its political enemies. This is no longer America if a mayor does such things.
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Message 619 of 1309 (740565)
11-05-2014 7:21 PM
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11-05-2014 7:07 PM


The Re: Houston mayor
The lawsuit was about the fraud of disqualifying the signatures. That has nothing to do with opinions about the ordinance. Clearly the mayor's office is guilty of political harassment.

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Faith 
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Message 622 of 1309 (740581)
11-06-2014 12:22 AM
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11-05-2014 10:10 PM


Delusions of Persecution and all that
It has to start somewhere, and government control of the churches and other inconvenient groups started with similar actions in Nazi Germany. Legal stuff. Laws that required church registration, also firearm registration and surrender for instance. Keep in mind that this action by the Houston mayor against pastors is absolutely unprecedented in America. Let me know if you still see it the same way in a few months to a year, if there's anything around to remind you.
What would you say if I tell you I've noticed that since I wrote a slightly incendiary post about homosexuality at my blog six days ago, actually pushing it some because I was wondering if it would attract censorship, my daily viewing stats have dramatically dropped since then? For years they've usually fluctuated between about 140 to 180 a day, rising above 200 with the more popular topics, the highest ever being over 700, but over the last three days they dropped to 68 on the 3rd, 40 yesterday and 10 today. Unprecedented. I've written a few posts on different topics since the questionable one. Seems to me cutting off viewers is a form of censorship though not a method I would have anticipated.
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Faith 
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Message 624 of 1309 (740585)
11-06-2014 12:52 AM
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11-06-2014 12:47 AM


Re: Delusions of Persecution and all that
Freedom of speech in America SPECIFICALLY covered political speech, the right to criticize those in power. That was because silencing criticism is the first step to government control and tyranny. Before the Revolutionary War pastors preached fervently on the political issues of the day, most of them in favor of fighting against the tyranny of the English king. They carried their muskets to church anticipating the war. The First Amendment was written after that, pretty much guaranteeing the right of pastors to preach politics from the pulpit. Seems like a pretty basic right to me but you are actually siding against it. Amazing how far this nation has sunk from its original conception.
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Faith 
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Message 626 of 1309 (740587)
11-06-2014 1:37 AM
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11-06-2014 1:24 AM


Re: Delusions of Persecution and all that
Once it starts it goes fast.
We'll see if the statistics pick up again. Then I'll figure it was some kind of glitch. Doesn't look that way at the moment, however.
I can control whether I get viewers or not, surely Blogger or Google can also.

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Faith 
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Message 629 of 1309 (740591)
11-06-2014 7:49 AM
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11-06-2014 2:14 AM


Re: Delusions of Persecution and all that
How on earth would I "investigate the cause?" I'm so low-tech I only discovered the statistics page late in my blogging career and eventually figured out that certain topics make the number go up. A certain percentage come off the search engines but what percentage I don't know, and others are more or less regular readers or friends of the blog who show up from time to time but I don't know how many of those there are either. Otherwise I have NO idea what drives the statistics and no way to investigate them. Such an unusual change raises questions for sure. The assumption of censorship may be wrong, I hope it is, but it isn't implausible considering that I allowed myself to say some things I expected would be more than usually offensive about homosexuality.
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Faith 
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Message 631 of 1309 (740593)
11-06-2014 8:28 AM
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11-06-2014 8:06 AM


Re: Delusions of Persecution and all that
Any that were driven away by that post would have come back for the other posts. But since most are off the search engines they just follow the topic and that number should remain within the usual range.
The reason I get readers off the search engines has to do with topic. People search on a topic I've posted on and my blog comes up, often at the top of the Google page if my title or key words are well chosen. I also believe I have a unique point of view on some of the topics.
I put up a post about the question of censorship so any who see that should respond if there's anything amiss. I can read the blog, that's not the problem, and I assume anyone who uses the URL to get to it wouldn't have a problem either. If there is any censorship it would be from the blog's being removed from the search engines.
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Faith 
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Message 635 of 1309 (740605)
11-06-2014 10:51 AM


I don't know why I continue to be amazed at the depths of dishonesty and perverted thinking I encounter at EvC. You'd think I'd have long since learned.
It's more sinister than wacky, but here's my usual image of its wacko Futility:

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Faith 
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Message 637 of 1309 (740613)
11-06-2014 11:08 AM
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11-06-2014 10:51 AM


Woopsie, just checked the stats on some of my other blogs. Two of them have high stats today. All the other blogs usually get much lower numbers than the main blog, but for them to go up to such a degree while it goes down to such a degree just does not happen. Veddy interesting.
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Faith 
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Message 638 of 1309 (740614)
11-06-2014 11:12 AM
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11-06-2014 11:06 AM


Re: Delusions of Persecution and all that
As I already said, the signatures were validated by the City Secretary, then illegally and fraudulently disqualified by the City Attorney. This is what prompted the lawsuit
Houston 5: Dropping subpoenas isn't enough, mayor
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Faith 
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Message 641 of 1309 (740620)
11-06-2014 11:50 AM
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11-06-2014 11:39 AM


Looks to me like they are targeted in such a way as to be caught off guard because the whole point is to take legal action against them. Seems the One World Order is using the Gay Agenda as a weapon against its enemies.

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Faith 
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Message 648 of 1309 (740679)
11-06-2014 4:58 PM


There's plenty of reason to suspect that free speech that steps on some toes could be censored these days, or punished one way or another. But as a matter of fact I just discussed the situation with my coolheaded brother who said he thinks the drop in readers must be the effect of the election results since that's what everybody's been talking about over the last few days, and interest in my topics will pick up when that has been talked out. I think he's right. I'm relieved.

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Faith 
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Message 651 of 1309 (740693)
11-06-2014 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 650 by PaulK
11-06-2014 5:15 PM


Lots of abuse was hurled on this topic, no question there, but not by me.
As for sane advice, please let me know when it shows up in a conversation at EvC because I wouldn't want to miss such a rare event.
ABE: No interest in answering the irrelevant responses to this. I was talking about this discussion about my blog and about Houston, not the rest of the thread. And that latest message was my response to all the abuse that was hurled at me. And there was plenty of abuse hurled at me upthread as well. Funny you don't notice that.
However, you ARE all idiots and the term was WELL deserved when I used it upthread, the only response possible to some of the absolutely stupidest stuff I've ever read. And abusive stuff as well.
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Message 657 of 1309 (740760)
11-07-2014 12:26 PM
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11-07-2014 11:48 AM


The world IS terrifying to those who understand what's going on. But that doesn't mean I'm terrified. I'm not. Frustrated though, depressed even, that I can't do much about it. Still, it's all a sign that Jesus' return can't be far off so in a way it's all a good thing.
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