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Author Topic:   Homosexuality and Evo, Creo, and ID
Pressie
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Message 12 of 1309 (722786)
03-25-2014 5:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by lokiare
03-24-2014 2:41 PM


lokiare
What's your opinion on Intersex people? Do they have a choice about their sexuality? Are Intersex people sinning just by being born Intersex? Are Intersex people being born to be Intersex not a result of genetics?
Hope you do realise that the Theory of Evolution can explain Intersex people very well. Genetics.
This makes me think that there is a genetically induced rainbow of sexuality stretching from being completely heterosexual through bisexual through homosexual trough to being Intersexed.
No choice involved in sexuality.
(Before you go off on a tangent, Intersex is not the same as Transexual).
Edited by Pressie, : Changed sentence "This makes me think that there is a genetically induced rainbow of sexuality stretching from being completely heterosexual through bisexual through homosexual trough to being Intersexed."

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Pressie
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Message 13 of 1309 (722787)
03-25-2014 5:35 AM
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03-24-2014 2:41 PM


lokiare writes:
So if homosexuality doesn't fit into evolution why is it here at all?
Homosexuality sure does fit into the theory of evolution. It's very basic. All sexually reproducing eukaryotic organisms derive from a common ancestor which was a single celled eukaryotic species. That species reproduced both sexually and asexually, depending on the conditions being favourable for asexual reproduction and other conditions being favourable for sexual reproduction.
Easy.
Now you explain how Intersex people fit into men being poofed into existence and women being taken from a rib of some alledged man and turned into a woman. Please explain the differences in DNA in men and woman that way.

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Pressie
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Message 15 of 1309 (722789)
03-25-2014 5:55 AM
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03-25-2014 5:43 AM


Faith writes:
The problem with your theory is that homosexuals don't reproduce, period
Lots of problems with his statement. Apart from the one you noticed; another one is some heterosexual people sometimes do have Intersex children.

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Pressie
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Message 18 of 1309 (722802)
03-25-2014 7:17 AM
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03-25-2014 6:20 AM


Faith writes:
and homosexuals do not reproduce, period.
Really?

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Pressie
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Message 20 of 1309 (722805)
03-25-2014 7:27 AM
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03-25-2014 6:20 AM


So, Faith, you're not going to comment on Intersexual people, I take it?

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Pressie
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Message 22 of 1309 (722810)
03-25-2014 7:44 AM
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03-25-2014 7:28 AM


Faith writes:
but not AS homosexuals, which is what Pressie's original false analogy implied. LEASE follow the argument.
Actually, some people do reproduce AS homosexuals. You do know that some homosexual people do have children?
Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

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Pressie
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Message 24 of 1309 (722812)
03-25-2014 7:55 AM
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03-25-2014 7:27 AM


This one was very, very funny
Faith writes:
Yeah, really. Only by heterosexual sex can they reproduce, not AS homosexuals. As you well know. They are NOT like asexually reproducing animals. Duh.
Actually, some species can reproduce by themselves (growing penises from their cell walls and impregnate themselves), to having sex with other cells (growing penises from their cell walls and impregnate other cells). They don't have fixed sexes.
We are decendents of those cells.
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Pressie
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Message 238 of 1309 (723354)
03-31-2014 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 227 by lokiare
03-28-2014 2:41 PM


Lokaire, nothing in your references tells us that homosexuality is a choice.
After reading through the sources you provided; I couldn't find the reseach showing that either homosexuality or heterosexuality is a choice at all...
For example; nowhere in the sources you provided were heterosexual genes discussed. Have researchers found heterosexual genes?
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