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lyx2no
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Message 28 of 148 (510127)
05-27-2009 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by lost-apathy
05-27-2009 9:28 PM


159m
Wtc 7 is 226 meters high and fell to the ground in about around 7 seconds.
Except that it didn't fall to the ground. It fell into a pile 14 stories high. WTC7 only fell 158 meters.
t(s)= (s/.5g)1/2 for 159m gives 5.7 seconds. 16% slower then fall time you've alloted.
Next?
Edited by lyx2no, : Word properly.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
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lyx2no
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Message 30 of 148 (510131)
05-27-2009 11:56 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by subbie
05-27-2009 11:41 PM


Thanks for the lesson
But my research shows there's a bit more to it.
You've just shamed me big time. I found that quote on a sticky note left by Uncle lyx2no. You've shamed me because I never even checked on the authenticity of the quote, yet alone if there were more to it. I thank the mythical gods (IOW, all gods) that it wasn't a quote mine. I've got to be more careful.
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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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lyx2no
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Message 34 of 148 (510153)
05-28-2009 6:39 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by lost-apathy
05-28-2009 2:36 AM


Re: 159m
Your argument does not make any sense.
  • Did you not say in Message 26 the building fell in 7 seconds?
  • Did you not say it fell to the ground?
  • Did you not say the building 226 meters tall?
  • Did you not calculate t(s)= (s/.5g)1/2 for 226m gives 6.8 seconds?
So, does it not follow that when it is learned that the building didn't fall to the ground but into a rubble pile 67 meters tall that it must now be determined how long it takes to fall to that elevation not the ground that it didn't fall to? After all, if you were walking on the 102 nd floor observation platform of the Empire State Building and you tripped on your shoe lace you'd not expect it to take 8.8 seconds to hit the floor would you?
Well then, t(s)= (s/.5g)1/2 for 159m gives 5.7 seconds would seem to me to be the counter argument to yours.
And if we extend the argument that it took 7 seconds (not 6.8 seconds) to fall those 159 meters then we had 19% of that time to crush its shell, and there is nothing left of your argument but your inability to understand it or the new one.
If you watch a video of it it is obvious that the resistance for all 54 floors was taken out at the same time, just like when they do a demolition.
It's not obvious. Claiming so is a short cut to deluding yourself that it is. You should learn some math and physics so that you can delude yourself the hard way. I'm sure you'd find it more satisfying.
You need to present to me scientific explanations of why this happened and back it up with logic and science.
You haven't understood the scientific explanation any more then you understand the math you presented in message 26.
d=vt+gt^2/2
d=distance
v=initial velocity
g=gravity
t=time
226 meters = (0)(t) + ( (9.8)(T^2) ) / (2)
The reason you haven't remove the initial velocity, v, from the equation form the git-go is because you're not comfortable manipulating simple algebraic equations. You didn't even remove it after you declared v=0. This is the same reason you didn't immediately solve for t: you didn't know how.
But of course the people who respond on this thread probably have no degree in anything, and havnt even taken classes in physics.
If you want to pitch the poo you'll find me game. You should realize that you've just been schooled by someone who won't be allowed to take physics until he's in the 10th grade.
Don't be a dufus.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them.
Thomas Jefferson

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