How beautiful is life?

The question is does he WANT to make any contribution to alleviating the problems he sees ?What he really seems to be concerned about is that it upsets his feelings for people to suggest that there's no afterlife. And he calls that "evidence".This message has been edited by PaulK, 05-12-2005 01:55 PM

Do you ? Why then are you here demanding that everyone accept your "evidence" (which is no more than a crude attempt at emotional blackmail) and agree with you, when that won't do anything about injustice. Why not make some effort - however small - to alleviate injustice and to encourage others to make such efforts ? Sending a dollar to, say, Medicins San Frontiere would do a lot more than your "contribution" here.Quite frankly I have to question whether you don't in your heart LIKE the injustice in the world. `You certainly find it convenient and are quite happy to try to take advantage of it.

I'm disgusted with what you've been writing.And you certainly care enough about evidence to call your crude attempt to manipulate peopel "evidence".

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Plz don't make me out to be some kind of evangelist that would use any type of lie or statistic of deaths or pain to be right in my own mind or to persuade others.

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But you ARE using it to push your belief in an afterlife. You even call it "evidence". But all you can do is suggest that we somehow owe it to the victims not to hurt YOUR feelings. How can I NOT be disgusted by something so self-centred and uncaring ?

That's what you demanded. That you shouldn't have to hear anyone say that there is no afterlife. Because it upset you to hear it.That isn't caring about the victims. If anyone needs to experience real suffering it is you. "What about them" you ask - as if they consder your feelings the most important thing. Whether there is an afterlife or not my saying that there isn't won't harm someone who's been tortured to death.And no, the suffering in this world is not evidence of an afterlife full stop. If it were you could present valid reasoning moving from the fact of suffering to the truth of the afterlife. But you have not even tried - preferring emotional blackmail instead.The universe is indifferent to us. Our species grew up in an environment far harsher than those of us lucky to live in the civilised world experience. Much of life makes it's living through exploiting other life forms as resources - including us. Is it any surprise then that the world is as it is ? And if we are to continue to make things more as we would wish them to be we must actually DO it. Complaining that people say things that we wish to be untrue is no help there.

Well I hope to have a less painful death. But death is death, right ?How does that help your case ?

Read the title. It's the perfect answer to your ideas about "evidence".Well almost. I'd also add that simply wanting something to be true can't make it true.

There's no problem with my understanding.The mere fact that you can't present any truly logical argument to link your supposed evidence to your desired conclusion is enough to show that your claim to have evidence is unfounded.