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lfen
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Message 13 of 161 (207456)
05-12-2005 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trump won
05-11-2005 10:39 PM


Siddharta Gautama began with similiar feelings
Theres billions of atrocities occuring every second.
Siddharta though personally living a "wealthy" life style found himself feeling in similiar ways to these and this led him to look not for a "belief" that would console but something that he could be convinced was real. Finally watching the phenomena of his experience, his mind, his self something fundamental changed for him. He referred to it as a "turning in the deepest seat of consciousness". Bernadette Roberts experienced this as did Ramana Maharshi and Wayne Liquorman. This is not religion in the sense of a tradition of belief that if followed ones feelings are reassured that eventually things will be alright in a future life.
Rather the non dual experiences of teachers in Buddhism, Advaita Buddhism, Sufism, and certain Christian contemplatives among others point to the possibile of a fundamental transformation of our experience. Religions vary in their support of this and in the end it either happens or it doesn't, but there can be value in exploring it.
If what you seek is the security of a dogmatic certainity and certainly there are those posting here who seem to have found a happiness in their varying religious dogma then the non dual teachings will be unsettling. If you seek understanding I think the insights and teachings of those such as the Buddha, or Ramana Maharshi would be helpful.
lfen

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