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The Tension of Faith

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ringo
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Message 1166 of 1540 (825165)
12-09-2017 10:42 AM 		Reply to: Message 1154 by Faith
12-08-2017 5:18 PM

Re: The HUGE differences
Faith writes:
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I think it was Chesterton who wrote about the importance of dogma.
quote:
"The modern world is filled with men who hold dogmas so strongly that they do not even know they are dogmas." -- G.K. Chesterton
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Message 1240 of 1540 (825278)
12-11-2017 10:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 1228 by Faith
12-10-2017 3:09 PM

Re: The purpose was always to identify the one true God
Faith writes:
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Whatever you don't like in the Bible has to be an invention made afterward.
You have it backwards. When we have evidence that something in the Bible is wrong - e.g. the Flood story - we recognize it as wrong. There's no desire to prove anything wrong, just a desire to find out what's right.
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Faith writes:
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No matter that such ideas never entered the minds of anybody who followed Jesus until recent times....
Well, no idea entered people's minds until it did. Ideas don't get more reliable with age; they get more reliable with evidence.
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Message 1242 of 1540 (825282)
12-11-2017 11:08 AM 		Reply to: Message 1241 by Phat
12-11-2017 10:59 AM

Re: It is Biblical Christians that pervert the Bible and denigrate Jesus.
Phat writes:
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I still dont understand the advice to "throw God away."
Have other teachers apart from Eastern mystics ever suggested this?
quote:
If you love me let it be
If you don't then set me free
Take the chains away
That keep me loving you
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-- Olivia Newton-John
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ringo
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Message 1251 of 1540 (825345)
12-13-2017 2:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 1249 by Faith
12-12-2017 12:16 PM

Re: definitions and semantics, supernatural, miracle etc.
Faith writes:
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If you define information about sin as "hate" ....
Hate is hate. Spreading "information" about hate is no excuse.
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And of course, hate is the worst form of sin:
quote:
1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
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Message 1281 of 1540 (825499)
12-15-2017 11:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 1278 by Faith
12-15-2017 10:22 AM

Re: What is sad about much of Christianity today
Faith writes:
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You are comparing God's judgments and punishments with the murder of innocents. Weird how that kind of conflation has become so common in this day of burgeoning paganism.
Burgeoning empathy. With all the images we see of starving brown babies, we're learning to set aside our instinctive prejudices. One murdered innocent looks much like another murdered innocent.
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ringo
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Message 1346 of 1540 (825724)
12-17-2017 1:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 1344 by Faith
12-17-2017 1:27 PM

Re: on marriage as a civil contract
Faith writes:
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It's the pretense to be a family equivalent to marriage that would make them bad parents.
What interaction of naughty bits is it that defines a "family"?
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ringo
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Message 1396 of 1540 (826004)
12-20-2017 2:50 PM 		Reply to: Message 1395 by Faith
12-20-2017 2:38 PM

Re: Opinion Piece: White Christianity is its Own Biggest ThreatN ot
Faith writes:
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Can't be too far away.
Maana never is.
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