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Message 102 of 1540 (820726)
09-25-2017 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Tangle
09-22-2017 4:56 AM


Re: Substitute Strategies For Centering the Mind
Trying to do something sodding practical in the face of your roof being blown off. I suppose if soiling your knickers is practical then well played.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 106 of 1540 (820736)
09-25-2017 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Tangle
09-25-2017 4:32 PM


Re: Substitute Strategies For Centering the Mind
Tangle writes:
..everything is equally useless.
Sorry Tangle, crappy sense of humor here.
Your right in desperate times of utter loss and confusion doing something that points to normalcy can be a comfort in itself.
Cheers.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 1082 of 1540 (824887)
12-04-2017 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1069 by Phat
12-03-2017 3:48 PM


Re: the nature of evidence
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So in your mind, the only thing that is really possible is something that has a natural explanation.
Hi Phat,
I thought I'd chime in. I see it this way, anything that occurs in the universe is natural imo.
It was once thought that things that defied explanation were magic. We now have explanations for the most improbable of phenomenon. Electricity for one is amazing but a natural occurrence.
If something exist that is supernatural then it must somehow be outside the bounds of our physical universe. If it is then how can it interact with things? I dont think God, (if God exist) cares about all that though.
Neither does the bumble bee.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 1085 of 1540 (824923)
12-05-2017 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1083 by GDR
12-05-2017 1:50 AM


Re: the nature of evidence
GDR writes:
You mean like dark energy or dark matter?
Hi GDR,
It is theorized that dark energy can hypothetically interact with itself.
I have read according to NASA. that dark energy makes up 68 % of the universe and dark matter 27% . Every force, atom, element, molecule, that exist in this universe accounts for only 5 percent.
It may turn out that the things we are calling dark energy and dark matter are place holder terms for something science has yet to fully understand or explain.
I believe that the word "supernatural" are what we call things that seem to defy explanation or adhere to the known laws of physics.
Just because we do not know what it is yet does not mean it does not exist. That includes God as well as far as I am concerned.
I do not know but do not rule it out.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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1.61803
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Message 1088 of 1540 (824929)
12-05-2017 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1086 by GDR
12-05-2017 11:08 AM


Re: the nature of evidence
GDR writes:
You tell me - would that be supernatural?
Supernatural is a word and it means different things to different people.
Many worlds theory or Multiverse theories that postulates infinite numbers of universes can give rise to just as many infinite numbers of possibilities. Supernatural in that sense loses its meaning as far as I am concerned.
On some other planet in some other universe Elvis is typing this.
So if other universes exist with completely different timelines and they begin to interact with our universe then yes I would call those things supernatural insomuch that I could very hardly call those things natural occurrences. Check out the series Stranger Things or Fringe.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 1250 of 1540 (825319)
12-12-2017 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1089 by Stile
12-05-2017 11:44 AM


Re: the nature of evidence
Stile writes:
But what about permanency?
Wouldn't something that's really "supernatural" be supernatural all the time?
Stile writes:
Are all things supernatural doomed to become "natural occurrences" as familiarity grows?
Is anything actually supernatural in the sense that it will (and should) always be referred to as supernatural?
Hi Stile, I myself believe that if something exist in our universe then it is natural. Just because we do not know from whence it came does not mean it is 'supernatural'. I believe supernatural is a place holder term. *and if God is ever found to exist and explained then he would be natural as well.**
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"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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