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Message 238 of 295 (120846)
07-01-2004 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by nator
06-30-2004 11:03 AM


"But you said that there is nothing degrading about what happens to a woman if she likes it, but since people will do things they don't like for money and act like they like it, you have no way of knowing if she feels degraded or not."
I think we're missing each other's point.
It was my understanding you meant the DS move portrayed women being degraded. I countered that some women probably enjoyed it just as some enjoy "rimming" a guy.
You then said you were referring specifically to the woman in the movie. I countered we have no way of knowing that for sure but, regardless, it is part of her acting job.
Let's say someone works in an office of a small company. They really screw up so the boss tells them to go and clean the washrooms. They may well feel that is a degrading job.
Now, let's suppose the same boss tells the janitor to clean the washrooms. The janitor does not feel degraded.
The point? The woman is making a porno movie. It is a job. There is nothing more degrading about a DS than there is about cleaning a washroom.

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Message 252 of 295 (121576)
07-03-2004 6:45 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by crashfrog
07-03-2004 12:54 AM


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As far as I can tell, it's a lack of exposure to pornography as a kid that fucks you up sexually.
I never understood how parents can let kids watch war shows and killing and even the news and yet go ballistic if a movie has a love scene. Maybe someone on here can let me know the rationale?

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Message 254 of 295 (121582)
07-03-2004 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by Silent H
07-03-2004 6:55 AM


I figured it must be some weird reason because it certainly doesn't make any sense.
Do you recall a couple of years ago there was a newscast showing a little Arab boy trying to hide behind his father and the boy was shot to death? It was replayed over and over on the 6 PM news.
Why society believes something like that is suitable to show during family hours yet rant about a love scene is proof some folks are not right in the head.

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Message 256 of 295 (121873)
07-04-2004 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 255 by Silent H
07-03-2004 10:02 AM


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A nipple. The human body is that taboo now?
It was on TV that women have started to breastfeed in public. (I forget the city.)They had a kind of a sit-in. Hahahaha
Anyway, I'm waiting to see what law will be passed forbidding a woman from feeding her child. This ought to be real good, NOT!

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Message 258 of 295 (121926)
07-04-2004 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Silent H
07-04-2004 6:19 PM


Hahahahahaha. We sure do live in a strange world.
The human body, whom so many people consider God's greatest creation, is treated like some form of dirt. The very act that brings new life into the world is despised to such a degree that just the idea of talking about it is considered bad. Society certainly made a wrong turn somewhere on the road to progress.

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Message 266 of 295 (122088)
07-05-2004 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 261 by nator
07-04-2004 10:40 PM


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Ever since the advent of The Pill and the sexual revolution of the sixties, a whole mythology of it being "natural" for people to have lots and lots of unfettered sex with as many partners as we want was able to propogate itself.
I see Holmes' reply adequately dealt with that misconception.
Also, there is a difference between casual sex and sex with as many partners as one can find. Consider "casual" as one would consider "casual" dining. Dinner with one's spouse. Lunch with a co-worker. A BBQ with the neighbor. Casual dining does not mean one consumes food with people they do not know. Casual sex does not mean one has sex with people they do not know. A co-worker. A neighbor. People that belong to the same social activity group.
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Sex is NOT "just another activity".
It can and does produce children which are a huge responsibility.
Many times an "unwanted" pregnancy is not all that "unwanted". A family friend had their teenage daughter become pregnant. I spoke to her and asked why she became pregnant. Why didn't you take precautions? Her reply was, "My parents are separated. My dad has a girlfriend. My mom has a boyfriend. I wanted someone so now I will have a baby."
Also, some girls believe that by getting pregnant they will "catch" the guy.
If condoms were more readily available I believe there would be less pregnancy. By readily available I mean at every checkout stand at every store. Remind the people to carry a condom. TV ADS. Keep reminding the people to wear a condom. Pregnancy and disease rates will fall.
If a pregnancy results and the woman does not want an abortion there should be social programs in place to assist. Really assist. I don't mean counselling. I mean dollars and cents assist.
The father can be found by DNA. Again, casual sex meaning the woman at least knew the guy's name and either she or her friends knew him.
People complain about all the abortions and fewer younger people to support pension plans, etc. One would think they'd be glad some women are having babies due to casual sex.
When one takes the time to analyse the arguments against casual sex one sees the mind set behind the arguments. "Children are great but not if they are born of a single mother." "Pregnancy is to be avoided by those not responsible but condoms should be hidden behind the counter."
It comes down to people believing sex is bad, evil, wrong. We know this because of the illogical arguments. If we are going to celebrate a married couple having a child then we should celebrate an unmarried teen having a child. If we are against unmarried teens having children we should be pro-condom and/or pro-abortion.
The fact is certain people do not want a solution to unwanted pregnancy. They want people to suffer consequences. At 60 cents a condom they should be handed out by the handful to those unable to afford them and vending machines should be installed in every public place unless the goal is to shame the person whom had sex and not because unwanted pregnancies are such a big deal.

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